Tyranids vs Fortress of Redemption

[voracious]

I have a game against Space Marines (2500 pts) and you'll find a Fortress of Redemption as late as possible in their deployment area taking advantage of its large volume and well put inside two units of Grav-Centurions, Tactical Marines, Devastators and probably accompanied by Thunderfire Cannons.

Given this tactic on his part that I can do? what options I have?

Any help is welcome.

Thank you.

[Jabberwocky]

MC assault will be the quickest way to bring it down, providing you can get in there alive.

Try and take advantage of his limited firing arcs using fire points, or simply play the objectives and keep away from the firebase.

[olivier]

Also, the Warp Blast power is useful on a flying hive tyrant or advancing zoanthropes. STR10 vs AV12 (because of lance) is nothing to scoff at!

[emoge]

Also keep in mind, it can largely be ignored. Only things you might want to destroy are it's weapons as I personally found them hard to ignore with their insane range. A warp blast or an MC charging are my two favorite ways of making them crumble. Then I just ignore the tower and front bunker for the rest of the game usually.

[voracious]

The big problem is how to get arrive with any CM considering that there will be within two units of Grav-Centurions (and many couple of space marines to support).

Other ways... T-Fex with Ruptures? Zoans? Venom Cannons? But is it really necessary?

And more important... if he put the fortress in a position so that I can't escape your shots?

Thx to all for your comments!

[Jabberwocky]

Grav Cennies are only 24" range I believe, so circle the bunker and approach from out of sight of the fire points. If they move onto the roof, you can hit them with anything you like.

As said, Zoeys would also be great if you can absorb any massed bolter spam somewhere else. They aren't afraid of Grav and will bring down buildings fairly quickly since no Deny The Witch rolls can be taken.

[apaosa]

Does he typically deploy inside every single section? If not, a Broodlord Hunting Pack may ruin his day. If he does deploy in all four, you could reserve them and make him hesitant about moving out or into the battlements.

[gloomfang]

If your not using all your FA slots or you have the models for the gargbomb you might want to think about deep striking spore mines. A full brood is cheap and if they can hit the walls (not that hard to do) a S9 hit will have a good chance of getting a pen.

[coredump]

S9 needs a 6 to pen AV14

[voracious]

Jan 27, 2014 16:04:00 GMT apaosa said:

Does he typically deploy inside every single section? If not, a Broodlord Hunting Pack may ruin his day. If he does deploy in all four, you could reserve them and make him hesitant about moving out or into the battlements.

I assume that fortress will be fully occupied by space marines inside and out and I know he will like play to Hamburger Hill mode with the bugs.

He plays completely closed so I can not get close

[gloomfang]

Jan 27, 2014 20:57:18 GMT coredump said:

S9 needs a 6 to pen AV14

For some reason I thought it was AV 13.

[coredump]

Jan 27, 2014 11:31:28 GMT voracious said:

I have a game against Space Marines (2500 pts) and you'll find a Fortress of Redemption as late as possible in their deployment area taking advantage of its large volume and well put inside two units of Grav-Centurions, Tactical Marines, Devastators and probably accompanied by Thunderfire Cannons.

Given this tactic on his part that I can do? what options I have?

Any help is welcome.

Thank you.

Hey Voracious, welcome to The Hive.

First, what do you mean by 'as late as possible in their deployment area"?


There are 4 buildings in the FoR, Either it has to be completely in his deployment zone, or he needs infiltrators, or he can't start in that part of the FoR.

It only has one door, so he can only get out via the battlements, or move from building to building to get to the door.

Be careful about Fire Points, he can't just shoot, he must shoot out of a fire point, only two models per firepoint, and all the models must target the same unit.
Note: I can't find any info about there being *any* firepoints except along the walkway... don't know if there are supposed to be fire points or not.

Centurions are Very Bulky. The buildings are small-small-small-medium. Only 3 Cents fit in a small building. He can't spread one unit of cents into multiple buildings.

Any models on the main building battlement measures actual distance. Same with firing from a Fire Point.

Thunderfire cannons can be deployed on a battlement. There is no way for them to move to a different battlement, and they can't go in the buildings.



Tactics:
This Depends a lot on how he deploys the FoR and what he puts where. If you need to approach it, I would try and flank it, fewer things can shoot at you that way. If he deploys far enough back, you may be able to mostly ignore it.

This sounds like a large investment for him, close to 1K points; treat it as such. Take your time to flank and if you approach, approach with care, and with sufficient force.