Walking tyrants loadouts?

[hivefleetcurinus]

So the fly rant seems to be the only tyrant getting a lot of talk up. So let's see what you guys plan on doing with the walker.

For me I'm thinking devs, strangle thorn cannon, norn crown and 3 guard one with crushing claws.

This will be my main source of synapse and hopefully fairly durable

[gigasnail]

t6. 3+ armor only, no invul. Bad idea.

[tanagra]

Jan 13, 2014 19:33:08 GMT gigasnail said:

t6. 3+ armor only, no invul. Bad idea.

Seconded. You get much more bang for your buck with the flyrant. Keep it swooping to avoid those nasty ID weapons and load it up with twin linked devourers and snipe threats out of groups. OR load it up with LW+BS and Scything Talons for those extra attacks and make it a character/tank/MC hunter.

Walking Tyrants need the Tyrant guards to survive, and without our mycetic spores our army is foot slogging enough.

[nameless]

Jan 13, 2014 13:37:56 GMT hivefleetcurinus said:

So the fly rant seems to be the only tyrant getting a lot of talk up. So let's see what you guys plan on doing with the walker.

For me I'm thinking devs, strangle thorn cannon, norn crown and 3 guard one with crushing claws.

This will be my main source of synapse and hopefully fairly durable

I think you'll want to have adrenal glands in there on all of those models.

This may work, you just need catalyst on the unit. The other option may be BS+LW and AG. With or without crown. That will still cost you a pretty penny at 455 points (with crown). Something I felt missing from my game was strong tough synapse with multiple buffing opportunities. That tyrant is 60 points cheaper than the swarmlord (who doesn't need the crown). At that point, you have to ask yourself if +1 to reserves, a USR on one until within 18", extra wound and extra power are worth the points (you don't need the AG on the guard at that point as the swarmlord doesn't have fleet -that comes in at 455 also). Just some things to think about.

[thunderhammer1984]

What about running a tyrant with, say, 2 guards AND wings. I know seems counterintuitive and I must admit I don't know at what terms a FMC can leave and join units but just throwing this out there as a thought. It's essentially a 35 point premium for the option to fly away... Cheers

[WestRider]

They can only Join like ICs, they can't leave like them.

[saabre]

So does that mean that once the Tyrant joins a group of Tyrant Guard it can never break off that unit to form a solo unit?

[WestRider]

That is correct. They're stuck there until the Guards get shot away.

[minionboy]

I think the flyrant is asking to get your Tyrant obliterated. It's not hard to knock out of the sky then pour fire on. A tyrant with guard can make a hard to kill centre synapse for your army. Personally I'm considering one with regen, devourers and venom cannon, which can hopefully suppress a vehicle while my army advances.

[gigasnail]

good luck? HVC is bad. walking tyrants are bad, walking tyrants with guard are expensive and kind of bad. if you think it's easy to kill a flyrant, how much harder do you think it's going to be to kill (or just avoid) your walking death star?

[ddt]

Flyers aside, Tyranids are painfully slow compared to many other army's. Sad to say this kinda makes a walking tyrant a bit difficult to play (kited round the table basically) and with guard the point sink could be viewed a liability. Without them it could be shot away relatively easily without any meaningful contribution to the game.

[Nightmare20]

I had similiar problems with the swarmlord. Depending on terrain placement and move/run rolls he could get stuck very easily. Best thing I found was to flank him with two tervigon and run him straight up the center of the objectives. But that was with biomancy and gimpless tervigons. Best bet now would be to run him with a carnifex squad, 3x tyrant guard, venoms, and a gant screen but that isn't exactly efficient.

Iam actually looking at a trygon prime with "THE OBLITERAXE" deep striking into LoS blocking terrain and messing stuff up that way. 10 points cheaper, mostly as deadly, faster three times over (deep strike, fleet, I7)...

But as far as tyrants go, fly them or run your army in a giant blob otherwise he will die. Might die anyways.

[t⊗theark]

You want to hear a joke? A competitive list with a walkrant.

[Hive Bahamut]

The thing that I think makes it obvious wings are better is the subtle 35 points bringing it to an even "200." People like round numbers and with the loss of 2+ (did you guys really not face Las/Plas??) and losing out on cost it really is the only way to take the Tyrant. FMC is the only way we get access to Skyfire, cut out your kneecaps if you'd like but it really seems Tyranids HQ is Flyrant only.

That being said I think if you were dedicated to it, a list with 2x walkrants with devourers, combined with as many Carnifex with the same loadout, venomthrope to cover them all and zoeys to buff, could be a contender to most. Throw 3x Guard on each and Regen and Good luck torrent firing that down in 1-2 turns. The Flyrant can benefit from this just as well though.. and gains 3+ jink.

[werewalrus]

I just wanted to piggy back on this thread, and ask a question in that I want to field either a Swarmlord/Walking Hive Tyrant as well. I realize the relative weakness of giving up the 2nd Flyrant, but if you were to run the walking version...how would you equip the guard? Should you keep them bare bones...or give them an upgrade? I acquired some via an army purchase, and I'm wondering what bits to buy since I'm missing the optional arms. I'll probably just magnetize, but I'm hoping to learn from your collective experiences