question regarding assaulting out of assault vehicles

[Hive Bahamut]

Now I have played a few games recently with variations of open topped and land raiders, and it became painfully clear I couldn't find the answer to my question.

It says in terms of shooting after disembarking you must either move 6" and fire as normal, or 12" then snap shot after disembarking. My question is this, what are the restrictions of assaulting? 18" seems a little extreme with the added 12" charge.. I have just bee playing it out this way because we havent found anything to tell otherwise.

Are our Nids really that pathetically slow? We had my first 4 way game and my Imperial guard ally and I got steamrolled by Orks and tau. I was playing my elfdar because the nids are now shelved until release.. (Mostly because my roomie was afraid to bring marines and have a tau/eldar vs guard/marine which is actually better match ups but he is WAAC so there you go..)


If this is not the case our game was moot for sure, it had a huge impact on the result, 2 battlewagon's and 2 trucks basically dumping off for assaults around 24" from start of their movement away.

[gigasnail]

yes, we're that slow. the only consolation is that pretty much everyone else is, too.

couple of things:

-you can't get out of a vehicle, at all, if it moves more than 6"
-when you get out of a vehicle, you have a 6" disembark move. it's not like 5th, where you have to crowd within 2" of an exit point. then you can shoot, as normal.
-then you get your 2d6" assault, as normal, provided the vehicle is open topped/assault.

to recap, the assault/open topped vehicle can move 6", then you can get out 6", shoot, and assault 2d6"

right now our only 'vehicles' are the super-heavies with the transport options.

[Hive Bahamut]

Ahh so I was right. I had told them that it would seem stupid that you could move an extra 6 when it came to assault. The Hive provides answers, WAAC players make their own. Haha. Good to know they can "only" assault 24" now. Sigh..

Until the new Dex! And its bitter/sweet aftertaste.

[gigasnail]

well the catch is that you can only do this with assault or open topped vehicles, and you can only move the 6" on the vehicle (not its full 12, then disembark). combined with random charge distance, it was a pretty serious kick in the pants for orks, as an example (rendering red paintjob kind of useless as well). nids, we didn't care so much. being able to assault out of anything is new for us for the most part.

[N.I.B.]

Dec 23, 2013 6:00:11 GMT gigasnail said:

nids, we didn't care so much. being able to assault out of anything is new for us for the most part.

True.

[commandersasha]

6th is fast, and our codex is 5th. Unless someone really drops the ball for with the new codex, we should get some mechanic-breaking rules that allow us to go faster: 6+D6 assault, maybe, or charge after running.

Most armies that have access to assault vehicles pay for it, either with fragile vehicles and low armour(so a blown up Trukk or Venom really hurts your squad), or pay a lot for it (Terminators in a Raider being 1/3 of your points in one blob)