How to deal with Fortress fo Redemption?

[free]

Hi everyone,

I will play a 1500 pt game against a Space Marine player fielding a Fortress of Redemption and am not quite sure how best to deal with it.

- What is the best way of taking care of shooty marines camping up in this intimidating fortification??

Previously he has won by missile/plasma spam, sternguard behind aegis with skyfire/intercept to take down my flyrants and monsters and will this time play regular marines with DA detachment.

I have enough nids to field almost any list but typically go for 2 flyants, 2 units of HG and one doom in pod, 2 units of termagants+tervigons. In this game I am also allowed one extra Elite, Fast attack or Heavy support if I want to.

Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

[mennorach]

For nids, I say the only realistic way is to destroy it in close combat. You have those two flyrants and tervigons, but if they aren't enough add a trygon or three to the list. Deepstrike them next to the fort and you should do fine.
I don't know if this helps any, but against marines target saturation has been the most reliable strategy IMHO. Lots of different targets all capable of doing the same job..

[Squire]

Can't you vaporize it with a zoanthrope? I didn't pay much attention to the fortitfication part of the rulebook... so maybe not

[free]

Yes, I am leaning at that (destroying it in CC) but the zoan sound like it could be an option or possibly setting up defensively because he has been extremely good at prioritizing targets and always maximizes the number of ML/plasma in an army to take out the MCs.

[Jabberwocky]

3 zones in a spore has a good shot at bringing it down in 1 round as well as seriously hurting the occupants, assuming no libby around to hood/Deny for the fortress.

Otherwise, smash looks like your best option.

[snowdaman]

The thing with it is that it counts at 3 or 4 buildings so u have to destroy each building separately

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[nurglitch]

There's always the brute-force approach: Take a couple of Tyrannofexen, with Regenerate, Acid Spray, Cluster Spines, and Dessicator Larvae.

[toonarmy]

you can only attack parts of the building that are occupied as well i believe. if they are sitting on the battlements then you cant attack the building.

I think 3 zones are your best bet here. take out the missile silo building first as this is the main threat and then everything else can run up the board.

[coredump]

Um.... what about ignoring it? Go after the objectives and just win the game.

[maugrim]

Coredump has the best point.

But if you're playing on Planet Bowling Ball (little to no cover) then surviving to the end versus a focussed shooty army is hard to do. Make sure you have at least 25%+ terrain coverage on the table (plus whatever the Fortification covers). That will mitigate his shooting somewhat, especially if you have good sized LOS blocking terrain. The game was designed with that much terrain in mind - and becomes unbalanced when that much isn't used. And also, Terrain gets placed *after* his Fortification is put down, so you can block the LOS of the fortification with terrain perfectly legally.

Also, make sure both of you are handling fortfications properly - they aren't simple to add to the game. The rules on what happens with Glancing hits versus Penetrating Hits, what happens to the occupants when the building gets hit, the number and location of entry points, the location of fire points, what counts as Battlements and what doesn't, the cover save given to guys on the Battlements, and what the rules on firing the mounted weaponry is (Automatic Fire versus manning the guns). They aren't simple and easy.

As for destroying them - consider them to be immobile Land Raiders and continue appropriately. As their AV decreases due to Glancing and Penetrating hits, more and more of your army can affect them.

[apaosa]

Glancing hits only cause 1 Wound, with save, to an occupant. You need to pen to lower the AV or destroy the section.

Zoas can be decent, assuming you pass the check, hit, and dont botch the pen attempt. I don't think that the opponent can claim a Deny, as you're not targeting an enemy unit. Smash could be just as effective. This all assumes he is occupying the section, not just the Battlements.

If he is sitting up top, a sneaky trick is to have Ymgarls arrive and move into the building in the same turn.

[fragile]

Flyrants are typically best for this type of thing. Swoop the first turn, then drop to Glide on the second and charge the building. Its an auto hit and with Smash you have a really good chance of bringing it down.

Also look to have units like gargoyles make it to the battlements and then assault into the building.

[leeroy1986]

There was a guy at Throne of Skulls that took a fortress and stuck as many Jakaero in it as humanly possible lol, people either get tabled or tabled him it's one of those armies. As to deal with it, i'd say shoot the occupants with mass devourer shots

[coredump]

Things to keep in mind.

Only 2 firers per fire point.
Entire unit must shoot at same target
only 10 models can fit in the 3 small sections of the Fort
LoS still applies, even for the models on the battlements.

[free]

We played the game yesterday and I want to share my experience.

My list:
2 x Flyrant (one 2 TL Devs, OA and one 1 TL Devs, BS&LW)
3 x HG
2 x HG
Doom in Pod
2 x 10 Termagaunts
2 x tervigon
2 x Biovores

My opponent fielded:
Kantor
1 x Sniper scouts
1 x Tac Squad, plasma, ML
1 x Dev Squad, ML

DA Librarian L2
10 x Sternguard w combi plasma
Land Raider

Fortress of redemption, fully armed

Mission - Big Guns
Depl - the middle one, long and narrow (dont remember the name)