Spirit Leech

[saabre]

I was wondering about this unique ability of the Doom of Malan'tai unique character. I wanted to make sure I understood how it works since it is a non-standard ability.

It activates at the beginning of the shooting phase, so is the Doom considered to be shooting when using it? If so, can he still use Cataclysm in a turn that Spirit Leech was activated. If not, does this mean that it activates even in a turn that the Doom is in close combat?

[roxor08]

No, how spirit leech works is this: EVERY shooting phase, immediately at the beginning, every enemy unit within 6" of doom, regardless of whether it is locked in combat or not, has to take a leadership test on 3d6. If failed, for every point failed by, that unit needs to take that number of wounds that only cover saves and invulnerable saves are allowed. Doom adds the umber of failed saves to it's wound count. If the unit passes the leadership test, then there is no effect.

So it is not a shooting attack as much as it is similar to a psychic hood. Therefore, since it is an ability that always occurs, and isn't a shooting attack it can also use cataclysm.

Additionally, if doom is locked in combat the ability is still able to activate.

[saabre]

Thanks, that's way I thought it read, but that just seemed too powerful so I wanted to check.

[Jabberwocky]

It certainly is powerful, just short ranged on a T4 model.

It is one of our few bits of cheese.

[core6188]

Mmmmm... cheese, Doom, I mean doom

[Geneva]

Don't forget that your opponent can claim cover saves against it though (for some bizarre reason).

[t⊗theark]

Dec 11, 2012 11:08:05 GMT Geneva said:

Don't forget that your opponent can claim cover saves against it though (for some bizarre reason).

Hey if storm shield protect psykers from daemons than you can can get you essence stuck on a bit of cover.

[GuardDog78]

And just to reinforce it...it's EVERY shooting phase...both yours AND your opponents...don't cheat yourself out of it...it's easy to forget during your opponents turn...

[commandersasha]

What are your thoughts on swapping out Cataclysm? When fully charged, Cataclysm is awesome, but if you don't get those critical first bonus wounds when you land, you're whiffed.
Some of the Primaris powers look more reliable, if less rewarding, and of course Iron Arm would just be extraordinary!

[nurglitch]

t⊗theark:

Storm Shields don't protect Psykers from the Perils of the Warp. In 5th edition invulnerable saving throws were allowed, provided successes were re-rolled. In 6th edition it's a wound with no saves of any kind.

[GuardDog78]

^^^ If you're taking on lots of infantry...orks or nids...you could swap it out for psychic shriek...12" spirit leech to get the ones the 6" missed...lol

[infornography]

You can't trade out Spirit Leech because it isn't a psyker ability. Cataclysm is though and you can trade it out. Going for Biomancy may be the way to play it though cause a Doom with Iron Arm would be a frightening beast.

[GuardDog78]

I was referring to swapping out cataclysm. You still gain wounds from psychic shriek missed...but don't lose the d3 when you use it...teamed with spirit leech...that's a lot of anti infantry damage if spored in the right spot...and its a guarantee (primaris)...depending what you get from buoyancy...could be hit or miss...

*biomancy...not buoyancy...my androids autocorrect drives me nuts...

[t⊗theark]

Dec 11, 2012 14:35:08 GMT nurglitch said:

t⊗theark:

Storm Shields don't protect Psykers from the Perils of the Warp. In 5th edition invulnerable saving throws were allowed, provided successes were re-rolled. In 6th edition it's a wound with no saves of any kind.

Christ I can't keep up in this edition *rests head in hand*

I don't see much point in swapping out its power, I mean there's the chance of a biomantic power like Iron arm of warp speed or something. I mean something with a 3++ save and potentially 10 wounds you now have to chip all off is scary but so is annihilation pie. Not to mention annihilation pie also gets wounds back for you and does it at a much better range in a more direct way.

[commandersasha]

Buoyancy? Are our Psykers amphibious now? Would explain the leeches! :-D