Need some advice on Orks

[gruff]

Hello hive I am new here and have bounced between my choice of an army and finally set my mind on the power of orks. I got myself the codex and a trukk with 2 units of boyz and a box of lootas/burnas. Now i am stuck. I cant decide where to go next. I wanted to have a fun army to model and paint (a variety of units) but i realize i want to win games still. (with practice of course) I have only played a few games in 6th edition with my friends various armies and thus turned to the hive for help. Where should i go next with this set up while still keeping it able to compete in the new rules?

Any help would be much appreciated

[Deleted]

Don't mean this to sound rude at all but you should dig around and find an Ork forum. I bet there is a more highly populated one than TTH that is crawlin with Orks talkin up better ways to scrap! I'm sure you'll get some advice here but it won't be as much. That being said, I love Grots. Make a Grot army.

[ilnar]

Burners in truckz good!
Looters can be, but I've never found them to be all that.
Same with meganobz. But I can see why Non Nid armies don't
Like them

Killacanz. Are. The. Bomb.
Seriously, they are amazing,
My mate started running 3 after I kept tabling his poor boyz. Ended up with 6 they are amazing,
especially with the new Squadron rules. Give them a burner each and make a mess
The big mek mini stompa army is properly scary.

[robomummy]

Warboss: one of the cheapest and most effective HQs in the game. I run mine with Mega armour, cybork body, and Attack squig. On multiple occasions he has taken out a 5 man terminator squad in 1 round of combat. stick hime in a trukk w/ 10 boyz for survivability and give the trukk boarding plank so he doesnt need to get out to attack.

Big mek: never used him in my list but the KFF will be invaluble with ork horde armies.

Weirdboy: very fun but dont expect them to be reliable.

lootas: quite possibly the best unit in the codex, I run a squad of 15 and I still wish I had more. 15 have the possibility to unleash between 15-45 S7 Ap4 shots per turn.

Burnas: great with enemy armies that rely heavy in infantry, I still dont have any because I need more lootas. the few times I have run them they preformed decently but they will take A LOT of fire in their direction.

tankbustas: Used them once and not sure how I feel about them.

Kommandos: YES take them just make sure you have snikrot and at least 2 burnas to come in from the side and burn those annoying sit and shoot units.

Nobs: I run 6 nob bikers with upgrades which comes to about 360pts and they are well worth it, if nothing else they take almost 2 entire rounds of shooting to destroy completely. Normal nobs also make a good bodyguard for your warboss but dont kit these out too much as they will die due to them being a big target.

Meganobs: unnessecary orks rely on numbers and these ork terminators are just too expensive for what they do. I dont have much experience with them though so by all means try them out if you want.

Boyz: you need these, lotsa boyz make a good list, I never make a list with less than 60 of them.

Gretchin: cheap, and weak but useful for grabbing objectives. i cant tell you how many times they saved me by going to ground on objectives.

Trukks: these are a must for some of your better units that cant get anywhere fast. I take mine with boarding planks so the nob can get his attack without getting off.

Stormboyz: yes they are very good. I run a unit of 10 with Zagstrukk. THey are able to DS into play then assault the turn they arrive with an I3 PK. I cant begin to tell you how big I3 is for orks.

Warbuggies/wartrakks/skorchas: a good point filler, I run 3 wartrakks with TL rokkits and they are always good to have.

Deffkoptas: never used them but pretty much the same as warbuggies.

Battlewagon: no self respecting warboss would enter a fight without one of these shooty tanks. I run mine with 4x big shootas and use them to carry 20 shoota boyz and sit on an objective.

Deff dread: never used it but I like the new model.

Killa kanz: a cheap way of getting some dreadnaughts in, I always have 3 with me.

Looted wagon: no... just no.


I think that covers everything (minus named characters) hope this helps.

[ilnar]

Looters never bothered me, I've always just dropped a pod with 5 warriorsnext to them, plenty of shooting, venom cannon from the pod then pinning/ runaway.
Only attraction for me in 6th would be the mental anti air power,
But, with the rumored antiaircraft buggy I'm favoring burners more and more,

[fragile]

Orks are best served with a side of fries and a shake. mmmmm biomass!

[robomummy]

ilnar: I don't think your opponent is using those lootas well. If you drop in 5 warriors in a pod next to a loota squadthat will be their first target since the warriors can't assault. A good round of shooting should finish them off nice and quick. If that doesn't work overwatch should finish them off when you assault on your next turn.
Also I keep a unit of 20 boyz nearby the lootas to screen them for that reason.

The whole thing you want for orks is target saturation, get enough units that your opponent cannot decide what to shoot at. In my 1500 point list I have no less than 11 different units. In my 2000 point list if fill out the FoC competely.

[zephoid]

Orks are about finding a concept and overdoing it as much as possible. You want shooting? 45 lootas and grot weapon teams and some defcoptas thrown around. You want horde? 120+ boys with some bigger nob squads. You want heavy stuff? nob bikers, battlewagons w defrollas and burnas and a mek with KFF. You really have to decide how you want to play. What do you want orks to do? they can do all 3 very well, but the unit compositions are quite different.

[mhqvick]

I do not play orcs, but I think you should by i flyer, they are pretty annoying to play against, and they seems to perform well in battle report ( especially the dakka jet)

[robomummy]

I use the blitza bomma, it is very very good.

[Xantige]

Aug 3, 2012 5:51:03 GMT @60mm said:

Don't mean this to sound rude at all but you should dig around and find an Ork forum. I bet there is a more highly populated one than TTH that is crawlin with Orks talkin up better ways to scrap! I'm sure you'll get some advice here but it won't be as much. That being said, I love Grots. Make a Grot army.

You under estimate just how many Ork players are part of the Hive... in fact, I think it's easier to count the people that DON'T play Orks from those that do.

Still, what 60mm said is good advice, DakkaDakka is bigger and more Orky than the Hive, so you'd probably find more advice there.

From what I've heard and seen, there's not that much in the Ork Codex that's terrible. I've only heard bad things about Tankbustas, but the rest seems solid if you use it right. Granted, some units are more random than competitive (Shokk Attack Gun and Weirdboys, I think), but pretty much everything else goes.

A lot of people are saying it's best to take Shoota boyz in 6th ed. I don't know if that's true or not, it's just what I've heard.

Honestly I think your next step is picking out an HQ. What you choose will also choose the best direction for your army. You can take a monster like Ghazkhull, or a souped up Warboss, or something like a Mek with a Kustom Force Field for a buff. You can choose a Warboss on a Bike for a fast army, etc, etc. Ask yourself what style of Ork army you want to play, try out the appropriate HQ, and see how it goes.

[ilnar]

5 warriors means 12 shots, plus a large blast template, plus a venom cannon from the pod,
They rarely survive to bother me, and they usually fail either the pinning or the leadership test.

[rippertotheface]

I recently started Orks with a friend of mine. We got AoBR, and after that we got some grots, and our most recent purchase has been a Big Mek with the KFF. The Big Mek seems like it is probably the most versatile unit if you upgrade it to the KFF, because it can make basically any list more survivable. I'm working on scrap-building some Killa Kanz, which also seem to be a good think to get for basically any build.

[nameless]

Orks are pretty easy to put together a good army.

You can do a lot just by getting bits and taking a knife to AOBR boys. One pack of lootas can get you 4 lootas and 4 burnas just by chopping arms. Same with Tankbustas

Some of the good things these days:
Dakka-Jet - Lots of TL shots!
Nobs (as Troops) on bikes - T5 all the way
Lootas - Nice distance and strength
Killa Kanz - Grootzookas are great weapons when you've got 6 shots
Shoota Boys - Try assaulting them
Warboss on a bike - T6!
MegaNobs - 2+ saves
Tankbusters - Even these are good now, the FAQ helped them a lot in terms of what to target. I'd just take a Nob with a claw and no tank hammers. 3+ to hit at worst against vehicles, you really don't need the S10 hammers.

I personally love Battlewagons, but some people don't.


The Waaagh forum is also a good resource for Ork stuff.

[wisdomseyes1]

Aug 3, 2012 5:51:03 GMT @60mm said:

Don't mean this to sound rude at all but you should dig around and find an Ork forum. I bet there is a more highly populated one than TTH that is crawlin with Orks talkin up better ways to scrap! I'm sure you'll get some advice here but it won't be as much. That being said, I love Grots. Make a Grot army.

Errr, TTH is for any army (hence the other GW board) its just primarily tyranid which is now limited to one section (the general section becasue apperently army lists of Amy army are allowed in the army list section)

We have 3-4 veteran ork players here who would likely help if they see this post.

@op: I played orks in 5th, and got REALLY bored. They play nothing like Tyranids and To me have no appeal past telling people their fluff. I canbe of little to no help.