Chaos Daemons in 6th

[Hive Fleet Cthulhu]

Yeah... so, I never got around to getting the rule book yet... and was wondering if anyone could tell me if my Daemons will still suck... probably will...

[zephoid]

not much of a change here. Every unit can Overwatch which allows shooting at bs1 whenever a unit is being charged for free, but to balance it out there will be less vehicles in 6th as they are much, much easier to pop. Considered WS1 if the vehicle moved and able to be glanced to death now. Other than that, not much of a change.

[Inquisitor Stingray]

Zephoid sums it up pretty well. In addition to that I believe there's a Special Rule called Interceptor which allows you to fire at things that arrive from Reserve. Though for now, few, if any unit has this rule.

[kingfisher773]

dude daemons were pretty good in 5th edition (not sure about now), i got tabled at a tournament by some . it just depends on the rolling, what's in the army, how they play and how you play.

[barreldragon]

The mishap table is more forgiving now. On a 1 its a terrible accident, 2-3 Misplaced, and 4-6 delayed.

[reallysorry]

Daemons with CSM allies are decent. Daemons alone not really sure about it. Soulgrinder is still a dissapointment tbh

[Geneva]

Actually, I think Daemons took a bit of a boost in this edition assuming you weren't dedicated to Khorne. Deep Strike is more reliable, the boosts to reserve rolls means you'll have most of your army on the table pretty early. Bloodthirsters can Swoop and No Retreat is gone making the completely Fearless Daemons nasty when it comes to combat and tarpits, particularly with Nurglings and the like.

Vehicles can be glanced to death which means Fiends and Horrors are now capable of shredding transports and there's less pressure on your MCs to do the job for you and IG/CSM allies gives you an added boost too. Finally, Precision Strike makes for some nasty combos with some of the Daemonic powers. Especially the Tzeentch envoy on chariot.

Yeah, I think things are looking pretty sweet from the C:CD standpoint right about now.

[Hive Fleet Cthulhu]

Yeah, my daemon army is a Tzeentch based one... sometimes for kicks I use Khorne... but mainly it's Tzeentch and Nurgle.

[warischoy]

then i don't see the problem. pink horrors got better now you can overwatch. reserves are better. You can still spam soul grinders without fail (come on don't tell me av13 with 4 hull points is still not completely amazing).

Skull taker is now disgusting in challenges, demon prince is now almost overpowered, epidimus can survive almost indefinitely due to new wound allocation rules and much more.

[Bot]

Jul 6, 2012 0:39:51 GMT kingfisher773 said:

dude daemons were pretty good in 5th edition (not sure about now), i got tabled at a tournament by some . it just depends on the rolling, what's in the army, how they play and how you play.

If Daemons were good in 5th edition then my grandma was a slimy, one eyed parrot, with a Hamster wheel as its pirate ship.

If that Daemon player truly had the courage kick his Daemon army into a tournament and won a game against you, I tell you that he/she did not waste that 1 cent he/she gave to the wishing well.

ah well... But seriously, Daemons should still have hard time. Overwatch ain't the greatest thing that could possibly happen to us Daemon players.

but as Mentioned above, there's a couple of good stuff in this edition as well.

At least, I suggest you should dust them off and give them a try.

[seahawk]

Soul Grinders did gain a 5+ inv save...

[WestRider]

Jul 11, 2012 18:45:43 GMT seahawk said:

Soul Grinders did gain a 5+ inv save...

AV13 with 4 Hull Points is pretty sweet, too, even without that Save.

[questioner]

I must be missing something here.

Since when did Soul Grinders get a 5+ invun save?

EDIT: Ah, I see. The new rulebook says the Daemon rule gives 5+ invun and Fear.

However, no-where does it say that you use the rulebook's version over the codex's version, or even combine the two. I would say you us the codex version, (which according to the FAQ now includes Fear).

[sac_ld]

Daemons are now not really penalized for not being able to assault the turn they arrive since all other armies are now having similar effects preventing turn one charges.

[Bot]

Jul 13, 2012 13:36:28 GMT sac_ld said:

Daemons are now not really penalized for not being able to assault the turn they arrive since all other armies are now having similar effects preventing turn one charges.

Which really doesn't change anything from 5th.