Necron rules question

[maugrim]

Two questions, related. I want to see how non-Necron players view this and/or how their gaming groups see this:

What happens to the Everliving models when:

Situation: Necron unit with 1 (or more) attached models from Royal Court(s) with the Everliving rule get wiped out...

1) By normal Combat losses - entire unit has either failed their saves and/or been hit with enough power weapon hits to kill them all.

2) They fail their morale check and get caught in a Sweeping Advance.


In both situations, nothing with simple Reanimation Protocols will get to stand back up - the unit has been wiped out. But Everliving counters do not get removed in those situations so those models would still get to stand back up... at least from what I see/read and as per the FAQ. The second situation is slightly more iffy than the first one.

Now - what is the situation if one or more of them pass their tests?

Is the unit they were part of still counted as "alive" (no KP for you!)?

Do they join another, different unit which can take attached Crypteks? Additionally, what if all the units in the area already have a Cryptek/Lord from that Court attached?

Do they re-join the combat... which is actually over at that point?

[webebuggin]

Your first two questions were cleared up in faq
www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2170012a_Necron_FAQ_Version_2_0_January_2012.pdf

And since everliving that are part of a unit (I.E Lords and crypteks) The unit can't be completely wiped thus the KP is denied until the lord/cryptek is killed assuming they make their roll. At least that's what I have been using and all the other locals. It would be to lame if the enemy got 2 KP for killing a unit with a RC attached. And no they can't join another unit, they are not I.C's. I believe anyways lol

[maugrim]

Part 2 isn't as clear, even with the FAQ, because some people argue that being run down after losing combat isn't being "Wiped Out". They aren't being specifically "removed as casualties" they're just being "scattered". Of course, by RAW they might have a point. But by RAI and by typical game-play most people don't question that they get to try to stand back up. Then, the other issues come to the forefront.

But the additional questions still apply to both. Is the unit considered completely dead if the Crypteks (who weren't bought as part of the unit) return to play? Or once they stand back up do they revert to being part of their original squad - the Royal Court? Or do they join other Warrior/Immortal/Lychguard/Deathmark squads in the area? Even if they already have Court members attached?

[zephoid]

Im guessing that it works like the GK Terminator sergent upgrade, thawn. If he comes back and his unit is gone, he counts as another KP because he is now another squad.