More Rumors?

[reekon]

So the thing everyone is talking about is the possible 6th ed release. And looking at it being Dark Angel vs Chaos box set. Why?

The last three White Dwarfs have an image on the spine, which people are saying, looks like a Dark Angel marine.

To me it just seems quite fitting to put a 40k style pic on the spine as it is a celebration of 40ks birthday. ppl maybe reading to far into it. What do you think?

[ziatochi]

Last time I was in the local GW one of my mates said that he had heard that Dark Angels were going to be the next codex getting re-done...just a rumor he had picked up on.

[liam117]

Are you kidding me!? I used to be 'nids but i kept being beaten so i went to Dark Angels, i wanted a change, so i went back to nids, AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING AN UPGRADE!?

[rainthezangoose]

The next codex will be Chaos, this will be tied in with 6th edition as chaos deamons did for 5th, these released will be pushed soon then we think thanks to hobbit miniatures now coming end of this year. this will be followed by codex Space Marines. because. the start kit will apparently contain dark angles and chaos.

this is my prediction. the chaos codex was said that it will be heavily back to 3rd edition roots. which was an amazing book. compared to the current "space marines but with spikes" this is supported the latest chaos release from forgeworld. "the how you need a HQ with the same mark to get the mark on the walker" which is how it was back in the day (kinda). the idea of Marks all costing the same is something i would like to see. i dislike how its "ill take glory or slannesh cause its the cheapest. or the fact that Nurgle is INSANELY expensive". the icon should stay, but if the bearer dies the squad shouldn't lose the mark.

my thoughts. i am worried about a starter kit, as AOBR marines are ugly. and in a kit with two marine armys these better look better. am hoping the chaos will have Bolt pistol, chain-sword.
i mean otherwise it will look like both armys are having a Mexican stand off.

[reekon]

Mar 18, 2012 11:08:24 GMT liam117 said:

Are you kidding me!? I used to be 'nids but i kept being beaten so i went to Dark Angels, i wanted a change, so i went back to nids, AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING AN UPGRADE!?

I wouldnt worry too much, look on the bright side if it is true you will have new DA models in the main box and a new dex to boot.

[killercroc]

Chaos does need the new Codex. Not saying the current one is bad, but... it ins't very good. I have seen the Codex before this current one and it was amazing! So many options, customization and you could take actual Legions! Not just paint them silver and call them Iron Warriors, you could actually take and Iron Warriors army. We need that again...

[rainthezangoose]

Mar 18, 2012 13:28:15 GMT killercroc said:

Chaos does need the new Codex. Not saying the current one is bad, but... it ins't very good. I have seen the Codex before this current one and it was amazing! So many options, customization and you could take actual Legions! Not just paint them silver and call them Iron Warriors, you could actually take and Iron Warriors army. We need that again...

Yes i still have the 3rd edition codex, and as is rumored i do pray it is the ground of the next dex.

[Geneva]

All rumours have been pointing to the next codex being Black Templar followed by a Xenos race and then 6th Ed. Chaos are likely to be the second (some even are saying first but I doubt they'll get it before Marines) army released afterwards, and yes, Chaos are supposedly in the Starter set too.

I haven't heard anything about Dark Angels though. I wouldn't put much faith into the spines of covers in WD. Particularly if the rumour is based on what it "looks like". Then again, I have been wrong before.

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Mar 18, 2012 11:08:24 GMT liam117 said:

[Xantige]

Ah rumors...

Personally I can't see why GW would put a SPECIFIC type of Space Marine army in a starter kit, I'd imagine they'd appeal to more people by just sticking with the Ultramarines/Basic Marines and then letting the player/owner decide what flavor/color they want their marines to be.

I have to say though... as someone that's always wanted to have a Chaos Army, I'd be delighted if the 6th edition starter set featured Chaos, and while I'm not big into Vanilla Marines, I wouldn't object having more models to add to my AOBR Marine army, army variety is nice.

....huh.... if 40k starter sets always feature the Space Marines... does that mean we'll never see the Imperial Guard in a set?

[yoritomo]

As a theme the starter set could have Dark Angels, but in the end I'd wager that will be generic enough to be used as normal marines. I don't see them ever releasing a specialty marine codex before the base marine codex.


For some reason I just don't believe there will be two sets of marines in a starter box. It seems like GW would be shooting themselves in the foot if they did that. How hard would it be to mix generic marines into a chaos force or file off the chaos emblems so they fit into a normal marine army? They aren't going to get two people into the game with this kind of starter set.

Though maybe that's their plan, make every marine and chaos player want to buy a new starter set. There's enough players who would want that kind of deal.

[reekon]

It all seems a little too specific to me. DA in the main set would deter the main stream from buying it id guess. but then doing double marine (chaos) might swing it the other way, as every marine player will find something of use in the box. DA models may work well as Templars for instance. Genarally though Chaos are one of the last releases of an edition.

[Overread]

I could see them mixing chaos and marines in the same box (seriously they must have done this at least once or twice in the past - marines are never not in the box and chaos are their arch rivals). Granted some might say that they are shooting themselves in the foot; but honestly many of those getting into the game new will be the target for the new box so they'll be the ones picking the box up and likely not as experienced with conversions.

Also as a 2 army thing many that pick it up will be splitting costs over just getting the book and models from outside the game.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if GW didn't try and copy some of the newer games on the market in having starter boxes (not a battleforce I mean starter with HQ and troops ready to play) for each faction or even starter deals (2 starter boxes - flat rules and codex sheet for each in a single deal) to attract people. Granted they'll still cost more than the others, but at the same time it might encourage more two person startups.

[WestRider]

Mar 18, 2012 17:48:53 GMT Overread said:

I could see them mixing chaos and marines in the same box (seriously they must have done this at least once or twice in the past - marines are never not in the box and chaos are their arch rivals).

Nope. The Enemy forces in the starter boxes have always been Xenos: Orks in 2nd and 5th, Dark Eldar in 3rd, Nids in 4th. Rogue Trader (1st Ed) didn't have a Starter Box.

The Marines have varied. Blood Angels were in the 2nd Ed box and Black Templars in 3rd. At the time, neither of them had their own Dex, though.

Most of this comes from some rumours that just squeaked out before GW really started clamping down: A source that had been at least moderately reliable in the past said (essentially) that there wouldn't be Ultramarines* or Xenos in the 6th Ed Starter.

Dark Angels have never been in the Starter and have a widely dumped on Dex, but Black Templars are also in need of an update, so they're a possibility as well.

After you remove the Xenos Armies from consideration, the only non-Imperial forces left are Chaos Marines and Chaos Daemons. And Daemons break too many fundamental Rules of the Game to make a good Starter force.

*The exact wording was "sons of Guilliman", which would also exclude Ultramarines Successor Chapters.

[rainthezangoose]

I personally just pray for a good rule book. i mean christ! could you imagen if it was pants! how long would we be waiting for it to not sux.... ...... ...... ...... XD *cough* fantasy *cough*

[gigasnail]

current csm dex is horrid. need some love badly. dont care if its in the new starter set or not just so long as its soon; and the dont nerf/overcost oblits...i have 7 at $24 each and i'll be hellapissed if they (please do not swear) them.