Necron Battleforce

[maugrim]

Why make a Battleforce without an HQ model??

I mean, really. Do they not want to put a Failcast in it, just in case people being returning the entire Battleforce to get that one fig replaced (time and again)?

[highny]

Just like tyranids... Comes with 3 warriors... No heavy supports whatsoever. I remember the good old days when it came with a Fex...

[Rakuall]

I don't think any battle force, ever*, has had an HQ. The Mega-forces might, but I've only seen an Ork one, and a 'Nilla Marine one, and only at the holidays.

*4th Ed. 'Nidz excepted, but that HQ was also an elite, and a fast attack, and maybe sometimes a troop.

[maugrim]

Well, of the other armies - Any of the Marines you could use (easily mod) one of the models as a Captain. IG comes with a Command Squad - so either that or any of the guys as a Commander. Chaos with several Possessed, which could easily be used as one. Orks could use one of the Bikes as a commander guy. Tau could use the Battlesuit as a commander, and Tyranids could go with a Prime.

They might not come with one specifically - but they included models which could be used as one. I guess the Necron one you could use an Immortal as one, but they are more different than that (now).

[Geneva]

Only IG and (possibly) Tau come with a HQ option in the battleforce. Remember, it's meant to be a starter kit. Not an army in a box.

[Bot]

Feb 18, 2012 5:26:41 GMT Geneva said:

Only IG and (possibly) Tau come with a HQ option in the battleforce. Remember, it's meant to be a starter kit. Not an army in a box.

Exactly.

Also, Tyranids have Tyranid warriors in it. for people who have either enough warriors or doesn't really use them at all... Well, they could just convert the warrior to a warrior Prime in order to get an HQ.

[Psychichobo]

The Battleforces aren't just starter kits - they're also expansion kits, so you can buy a tonne o' troops to add to your list without getting a random HQ you don't need.

[orkblasta]

Feb 19, 2012 21:46:30 GMT Psychichobo said:

The Battleforces aren't just starter kits - they're also expansion kits, so you can buy a tonne o' troops to add to your list without getting a random HQ you don't need.

this is an excellent point, I've deffs used a few battle forces to expand on my army lists. Thy give you the basics, excellent for bulking out your army. and in many cases that is just enough to go from a 40k to an apocalypse army.

cheers.

[WestRider]

Feb 19, 2012 21:46:30 GMT Psychichobo said:

The Battleforces aren't just starter kits - they're also expansion kits, so you can buy a tonne o' troops to add to your list without getting a random HQ you don't need.

Yep. A large part of the point of the BattleForces is that they're still a good deal even after you've purchased one or more. So they're filled not with the things you need to get started, but with the things you can pretty much always use more of.

At least in theory. Sometimes they do make some questionable choices there.

[Geneva]

Feb 21, 2012 2:19:31 GMT WestRider said:

Yep. A large part of the point of the BattleForces is that they're still a good deal even after you've purchased one or more. So they're filled not with the things you need to get started, but with the things you can pretty much always use more of.

At least in theory. Sometimes they do make some questionable choices there.

Like the CSM Battleforce which has next to nothing you'd want more of unless you're specifically playing casual World Eaters.

[WestRider]

The CSM Battleforce is still awesome if you're a converter. I just chop off the bunny ears and shave down the Khorne symbols, and then mix all the bits together to make CSMs.

I go more heavily to the Berzerker bits to get a chunkier look for my Iron Warriors, and take more of the Possessed bits for my Word Bearers.

You need to come up with more Special Weapons and PowerFists and stuff, but that's pretty much a given with CSM anyhow.

[Psychichobo]

Pff, enjoy the CSM battleforce - it's from the days when you got value for money in them! I still remember the excellent old Nid one, which came with the equivalents of a Warrior Box, Hormie Box, Termie Box, Genestealer Box, and Carnifex box, all for £50.... sigh. Seems that the newer Battleforces just get worse - new Ogre one's rubbish.

[ohkay]

I still remember buying two box of battleforce in 4th Ed. When it was 3 warrior, 8 termagaunt, 8 hormagaunts, 8 genestealers, 1 carnifex. Yes, ONE whole fex! Use warrior as HQ, and your set.

[DinoCop]

I´m quite angry with GW because they canceled Carnifex Battleforce. It was The best Battleforce EVER!!! EVEEER!!!

OLD BF: 3 Warriors, 8x Termas, 8x Hormas and 8x Genes + 1 Carnifex - only for 1350kč (crowns) = 45 pounds
NEW BF: 3 Warriors, 16x Termas, 16x Homras and 8x Genes .............. - for 1750kč = 57 Pounds

Do the math yourself but for me it´s totaly unworthy to buy nowadays Battleforce
I´m glad I got 2x ´fex Battleforce.

[Geneva]

Nothing beats the Tau Battleforce! Well... Except maybe the codex.

Dark Eldar and Chaos Daemons both have pretty sweet sets as well. Funny considering how recent they both are. The DE one is actually cheaper than the usual price for a Battleforce too.