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Post by Hunger on Jul 12, 2011 3:11:26 GMT
Daemon has a definition beyond demon even though demon is one of the definitions of daemon. Fluffwise, the are daemons, but look and act like demons. What a beautifully eloquent way of expressing that which many find so confusing. Gauntinator, Ward receives so much abuse from the gaming community because he either does not understand many basic principles of 40K lore, or he understands them and simply ignores them. His stories feature unstoppable protagonists versus one-dimensional enemies. If he were a sideline author or an enthusiastic fan-writer then the community would offer him support regarding his writing style and help him get a better grasp on the 40K universe and the relationships between the different factions within it. Incredibly, though, he is a member of GW's Games Development team, actively driving forward the evolution of the game. How this man managed to fool the company into thinking he would be good for the job of writing codices and fleshing out the background of the universe is a mystery. My guess is that he was the tea-boy doing work experience, community service or whatever. By chance the rest of the team were all out of the office when the Director of Codex Fabrication arrived on an unscheduled visit and found Ward sitting in the boss's chair pretending he was engaged in a heated telephone negotiation. "50 million is what I said and 50 million is what its worth - I don't care if Jervis himself is on the credits," he says, taking one of Phil Kelly's cigars from a box on the desk and smelling it. He snips the end off the cigar with a cutter and lights it, reclining in the black leather chair. "Don't make me come down there - you don't want that. He stabs accusingly at the air with his finger. "You tell the union to prepare for a strike. If they want a war, I'll damn well give them a war!" The Director seems impressed with this young turk's attitude. He's brash, bold and businesslike. Who cares about the product when you've got a guy like this calling the shots? The Director tips his oversize Texan hat. "Whats your name, son?" His affected American accent is unconvincing. "Mat Ward, sir. With one T." "I like your style boy. You're going straight to the top." The Director picks up the phone and punches a familiar number on the keypad. His moustache bristles with a fatherly smile. "Tom, its Kevin. The new guy in Development - Ward. I want him fast tracked to Codex Writer... Forget the players, my prince, for they are fools. They will swallow any nonsense we feed them. I understand, my dark lord. It will be done."
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Post by robomummy on Jul 12, 2011 11:55:02 GMT
Um how exactly do tyranids hav huge internal balence issues? Also it is a fairly well made book with a lot of different options that are all viable (except the poor pyrovores and lictors) the tyranids are not that strong individually, so what, its called synergy. Tyranids are not an easy army to play but they are by no means a bad army.
That being said if it really is ward writing the new crons codex I think my 2000point necron army will be staying on the shelf.
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Post by notanoob on Jul 12, 2011 12:33:54 GMT
robomummy, you are the first person I have seen in a long while that doesn't believe that Tryanids have balance issues.
First, the obvious things like how a Trygon is better than a Carnifex in every way bar S, which happens to be irrelevant.
Then, consider the upgrades. Most of them are frighteningly stupid and bad, like Toxic Sacs on a MC not called the Tervigon, or Spinefists, Spike Rifles and Stranglewebs.
Finally, there is massive competition in the elites slot because Cruddace saw fit to put all of our good anti-tank in there and nerf the Venom Cannon. Most of the elites will never see the light of day because of Hive Guard.
For further consideration, Raveners still have no upgrades, Lictors have horrible special rules and stuff like the Trygon tunnel exists at all.
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Post by N.I.B. on Jul 12, 2011 14:05:50 GMT
Matt Ward has actually got to /tg/ to provoke its members. Can someone explain this?
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Post by kjd on Jul 12, 2011 14:37:02 GMT
If half the armies are considered pretty decent to over powered couldn't it just be considered a shift in the power balance of the game? most the weaker codexes are older ones aside from the nid dex and even they aren't horrible
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Post by robomummy on Jul 12, 2011 19:18:26 GMT
notanoobI'm not saying they don't have some balence issues, every army has good and bad things. I don't play against vehicle spam too often but when I do I rely on the large bugs to get close and take them out. I don't really use much ranged AT units like the hive guard and zoanthropes. I use trygons and my flyrant as anti tank. My army is basically 3 trygons, a flyrant, termigaunts, hormagaunts, genestealers, and warriors. I will occasionally throw in the deathleaper or DoM for fun but my list has done fairly well. So as for "all the good AT units competing for the elites slot" there are plenty of other ways to build a tyranid list.
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Post by Tyrantor on Jul 12, 2011 19:57:14 GMT
Also, Warhammer Fantasy Battle Demon Codex. daemon* the words are spelled differently for a reason. Daemon has a definition beyond demon even though demon is one of the definitions of daemon. Fluffwise, the are daemons, but look and act like demons. Honestly, that contributed nothing to the thread and actually wasted my lifeforce away simply facepalming at the statement and contemplating why someone would point something so trivial when it could easily be a typo. TL;DR - don't care. Um how exactly do tyranids hav huge internal balence issues? Also it is a fairly well made book with a lot of different options that are all viable (except the poor pyrovores and lictors) the tyranids are not that strong individually, so what, its called synergy. Tyranids are not an easy army to play but they are by no means a bad army. A bad army? No. An army with horrible internal balancing? Yes. God yes. We are an army with absolutely horrid internal balancing, regardless of what you say. It's in plain black and white (and occassionally, grey). We have overpacked elites slots, 2 (nearly always 3) viable troops, nothing in fast attack and our heavy support is balls too. A Tyrannofex is hard, but it's not great. A Trygon? Woo, how mediocre. The balance is terrible, and the RAW are terrible. Now, on topic, Ward's codex rules as a stand-alone thing aren't actually that bad, eg, SW, BA, GK are all pretty similar in a comparison of power. They just happen to be stronger than other codices. Essentially, Ward codices tend to raise the bar of the power of codices, if you know what I mean. However, integrate this with a game that had codices not as powerful and they seem OP. His rules are fine on their own but in comparison with the other codices they're just OH SHI- That's the rules part covered - he makes codices OP in their environment but capable of handling other Ward codices (and IG, but that's someone else). Now, the other thing is fluff. He writes over-glorified fluff that is generally over the top and hard to believe. His style seems focused on creating massive heroes for every race (See: Mephiston) which certainly makes some races different from their last codex (See: Necron fluff). The other thing is that he doesn't change the fluff a tad, he totally morphs it into something monstrously different (See: Necrons again). Changing fluff isn't normally a bad thing, but Ward has a penchant for changing it in ways that really make the reader feel offended (See: Necron Angel Brofist). There's some lines you don't cross, and Ward crosses them. Either way, 40k has mostly been a tabletop game for some time now, fluff is good, but it takes a backseat in 40k. The Fantasy fluff is much better. It's now just gotten to the stage where it's painful to read any fluff. Course, this is based on my perception of 40k. Either way, the Ward hate is greatly over-exaggerated by, you guessed it, the internet (gold stars all round). Think that's about it from me. Peace.
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Post by wisdomseyes1 on Jul 12, 2011 20:06:29 GMT
And you need to learn that i could care less if you care about what i say or not
^Look, another point to the thread that really just sucked your life away from reading. isn't it fantastic?
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Post by Bot on Jul 12, 2011 21:04:26 GMT
Hey, Yo guys! Peace and love! herp derp, hippie hippie (Just kiddin', not hippie xD ) I could rant for millenias about reasons to hate Ward... But folks here have it covered pretty well and no reason to start a flame war with people that have another opinion than me. Would say that you need to think more about synergy with Tyranids to get them working than any other army. we are not OP, but we are certainly not the 'dex who suffers the most at the moment, and if we play decent, then we are still able victory upon the Table. As our codex is right now, I would rather have Robin Cruddace fix his mistakes in this 'dex than let Ward do it.
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Post by gauntinator on Jul 12, 2011 22:37:44 GMT
Ok so does anyone know who is writing the new Tau dex. Please tell me it's anyone but Ward or Cruddace.
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Post by Tyrantor on Jul 12, 2011 23:57:36 GMT
And you need to learn that i could care less if you care about what i say or not ^Look, another point to the thread that really just sucked your life away from reading. isn't it fantastic? Nope.
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Post by Psychichobo on Jul 13, 2011 20:47:37 GMT
druthu: I dunno, there's a few units in every dex that actually is a bit useless. I will grant you the point on variety though, Ward tends to throw enough random junk in his dexes for no real reason that you end up with enough variety to experiment with. GK's got it best almost purely thanks to Coteaz, and BA can do quite a lot. It's just annoying though that each dex does quite clearly seem to try and one-up the previous one. A lot of people felt that he basically rendered the Space Marine codex obsolete with Blood Angels. If he does Black Templars it's likely they'll have most of the things BA have. Also, I do actually know people who know Ward (go me) and I do remember them saying he got the job in a rather unexpected fashion. I'll go harass them some time about it.
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Post by Bot on Jul 13, 2011 20:49:43 GMT
Also, I do actually know people who know Ward (go me) and I do remember them saying he got the job in a rather unexpected fashion. I'll go harass them some time about it. Unexpected fashion?
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Post by Psychichobo on Jul 13, 2011 21:16:30 GMT
I know he was actually offered the job rather than him applying for it, I forget for what reasons though.
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Post by Geneva on Jul 13, 2011 21:42:16 GMT
That's very strange. Did he write for anyone else before GW?
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