Starting a new SM army. Ideas welcome!

[andy089]

So I would like to field an army of imperial forces. Or chaos.

What I would like to have is an army that "still likes technology" if you know what I mean...

Zanatorians are cool and everything but just too much robots themselves. I am thinking about an army that's against the Imperium because it keeps humanity from using its full potential or something like that...

What do you think?
And what Codex should I use? CSM? SM? GK?

[ravix]

First thing that came to my mind for Chaos was Iron Warriors. I don't know a whole lot about their fluff but I do know they are very much into things like vehicles... I suppose that counts as "technology", correct me if I am wrong. I also love their color scheme.

As for Space Marines... Iron Hands, perhaps?

[elackqu95]

I've been wanting to make SM's too, but I don't like to go with the crowd, I love nids, but every once in awhile I wish I had some SM's. I mean, what's not to like about 7 foot tall super soldiers in full power armor??? I love the models and especially love termies, too bad I don't make enough money yet for a second army, I haven't even finished my nids after a year, only about 2k points... and the majority of that is stuff I don't use. I just proxy a lot of my stuff right now.

[orkblasta]

I'd say go for something that's less common and table, why don't you try out dark angels.

they've got some great stuff on the table with all sorts of rules to screw with your opponent, also I just like them as an army.

cheers.

[andy089]

Well as I go through the armies I always think to myself..."THIS ARMY NEEDS MORE PLASMA!!!". quietly of course.

[Psychichobo]

Well, with Marines I found the best thing to do was think up a cool concept for those marines then use the dex that lends itself best to it.

I liked the idea of fleeting marines, so went with Vanilla Marine dex and used Shrike. Speed is of the essence!


The upside with the four marine dexes (and chaos marines) is that since most of the weapons are the same it's pretty interchangeable stuff, so just get whatever models you want and find the dex that lets you make the army you want!

Iron Warriors are Chaos Marines that love technology and the like. So you'd use chaos marine and iron warrior parts, but then you could say use the GK dex for super funky weaponry, or if that's too silly the BA dex for lots of vehicle madness.

[andy089]

Well I dunno. Reading through the CSM codex a few times I might get into that. I can still use 3 dreadnoughts with a plasma cannon...and much of the other stuff from the SM-codices. But then I can use cool things like a greater daemon (conversion hooray!) and so on.
btw - there is no such thing as a Chaos space marine on a juggernaut is there? (rules-wise)


And the thing about iron warriors is...while they love technology, I don't think they use lots of "new" things is it?

[killercroc]

Actually you can have a Chaos Marine on a Juggernaut. It would be a Chaos lord with Mark of Khorne, and a Daemonic mount, this would give him +2 A and +1 S. If you were ballsy you could give him a Bloodfeeder too, which would give him 2D6+5 attacks each turn in combat, but if you roll a 1 on either dice you wound yourself.

[Psychichobo]

To be honest, very few marine chapters use new technology - it's just old technology that's been well-maintained. I think this is done so that when fluff advances they don't have to try and justify denying other chapters receiving new technology (though the Land Raider Crusader was a newly developed vehicle by Black Templars that other chapters asked for)...

[vk]

Remember, everytime someone goes with Iron Warrior, a Hive Ship is took to the Eye of Terror.

Think of the Hive Ships people.

[andy089]

What would you take: Defilers or Obliterators?

[kingfisher773]

ok heres somethings... if you like plasma go with SW or CSM (SW get 2 for free ((or maybe it's just meltas and flamers)). Oblits and defilers are used for different things, if you would like to deep strike behind tanks and popping out multi-melta shots you want oblits, if you want a awesome looking spider-like model that shots large blasts at a range of 76" defilers are what you want.

Oblits are more useful but defilers are more awesome.