warhammer fantasy question

[orkblasta]

So a friend of mine is just getting into fantasy, we both play 40k as well. He's starting up a Goblin/ork army and well it's sparked my interest.

I was considering getting into fantasy a when the new edition came out but started a new 40k army instead, but now I think I really am going to get into it.

The Dwarves have sparked my interest for the very reason that they look sweet and I've always loved dwarves.

What armies would you suggest getting and for what reasons? Are there any reasons why Dwarves aren't a good option? Is there anything I should know about the Dwarves before getting them?

cheers.

[despot]

Dwarfs are 100% devoid of magic to start off. If you want to play a hard to budge and tough army with good warmachines (I.e. cannons, stonethrowers ect.). Dwarfs lowest leadership is 9 (in a game that's all about leadership) and they are all toughness 4 where 3 is base for most armies. They also have pretty decent shooting though it's a bit expensive as is most of the army. Most of their troops also have nice armor saves, but the entire army is somewhere around initiative 2. Despite having no magic they have options to help them shut down enemy magic more easily than most armies and their fighting skills can turn a battle even without it.

If none of that sounds like your cup of tea then just describe what you think you'd like and I'll try to help you learn about similar armies.

[orkblasta]

That sounds perfect and thanks for the info, but since you offered what can you tell me about skaven. They've got some pretty sweet models since they just got redone.

Usually I like playing armies where I can hammer my way across the battlefield and where I have plenty of strong units that are difficult to move, this sounds like dwarves. But I also enjoy playing fast moving strategy armies, does that sound like skaven?

cheers.

[despot]

Skaven are the most amazing thing to happen to anything evar! But in all seriousness they are my army of choice and they're incredibly chaotic. Their core troops leadershit (that was an accident but I'll roll with it) is 5, but they have a rule that add their extra ranks up to 3 to that (or the generals if he's close enough) to an easily possible 10 with a character there. Their core troop costs 4 points and suck, but they're cheap; and they have an even cheaper option called slaves:2 points a pop and one of the worst/best units in the game. They're an amazing tarpit and have a special rule allowing you to fire weapons/warmachines/magic into their close combat because they're completely expendable.

Now I could ramble on about skaven for an hour and still have more to tell, so if you're truly interested in them I'd suggest going to underempire.net/index.php?s=dfe63111bd6348eee41a336213be831f&act=idx and perusing some of the threads. It's a great board just like this one, but dedicated almost completely to skaven.

[wisdomseyes1]

You can't go wrong with daemons Tzeentch will be happy of your CHANGE to fantasy =D

Kidding. If dwarves sparks your interest, you should go Dwarfs. Don't have people try to talk you out of it...

One of my friends is starting a Brittonia army, thought they are the fantasy equivalent to the current grey knights. He doesn't care. he thinks they look cool, and he likes cavalry. So he is playing them. Enough said.

[Inquisitor Stingray]

As said Dwarves are devoid of magic and they are pretty damn slow on the battlefield (only moving about 3-6" on the board). On the other hand they can bring so many crazy dooms day devices it's not even funny. Or well, it actually is. They can muster enormous amounts of firepower, but not in a cheap Tau-ish way. They have some awesome Close Combat troops aswell.

I too recommended Lizardmen. They're poor on shooting, but awesome troops and magic.

[3ff3ct]

Feb 12, 2011 11:11:24 GMT despot said:

leadershit

I'm definately using that.

I have a skaven army myself, they're great fun if you don't mind losing comically or totally creaming your opponent. When they go wrong they fail catastrophically, when they go right there's not much anyone can do to stop you.

>Cue manical laughter and wringing of paws/hands<

[despot]

Feb 12, 2011 22:37:52 GMT 3ff3ct said:

Feb 12, 2011 11:11:24 GMT despot said:

leadershit

I'm definately using that.

I have a skaven army myself, they're great fun if you don't mind losing comically or totally creaming your opponent. When they go wrong they fail catastrophically, when they go right there's not much anyone can do to stop you.

>Cue manical laughter and wringing of paws/hands<

YES! KILL-KILL THE SHORT-THINGS! *SQUEAKSQUEAKSQUEAK*

[The Hive Mind]

Go Dwarfs, they might not rush over the table but they will hold their line very well, even better with the new Horde rules.

I love Vampires and High Elves, personally, both story and game wise, so you really have to collect what you like! More so than with 40k as you'll be comminting a lot more time, money and effort into them due to the sear size of the armies are twice or more the size of 40K armies.

As I've always said, if you don't sit there and think I really wanna paint that army then don't do it, because you never will.

Short answer, the son's of Snorri Whitebeard seem like the army for you.

[orkblasta]

Case closed my friend that wants to start orks just found a battle for skull pass set, we're going to split the cost 40/60 and he'll keep the dice and the rulebook. I'm getting dwarves.

anyway could you guys please expand on the son's of Snorri Whitebeard. sounds cool but who is he?

cheers.