wolf gaurd ss/th termys worth it?

[n3rvedamage]

th/ss=63 pts

twin wolf claw=48 pts

powerfist=43 pts

reg=33 pts

so as i see it the th/ss it totaly overpriced wile the other versions are underpriced i was just wanting your opinions(thay also have counter attack and accute senses)

[maugrim]

You're paying for a 3+ Invulnerable Save.

[welshpaul]

TH/SS Termies tend to be used against MCs since they invariably wound on a 2 and get the 3+ invul save against the MCs' attacks. Against vehicles or infantry they are overpriced.

[n3rvedamage]

im not asking what there used for......

sm th/ss are 40 pts yet i pay 63 for the space wolf codex

so yes thay are OVERPRICED regaurdless if the 3+ save is worth it or not but thats not my question eather

the question was if it was worth it 4 space wolves 2 pay the extra 23 pionts 2 get a termanater thats only a little better evan thow thats att the SW will give me?

[Psychichobo]

The Space Wolf version does cost more, it's just something that keeps your list balanced. You get some things better than the SM dex (Long Fangs>Devastators any day).

Overall, the TH/SS termies are the best ones. It's annoying that they're the same as Lightning claw ones in the current dex, which you'd only really choose for fun rather than efficiency.

[n3rvedamage]

i see your piont there and i agree i cant have my cake and eat it to

but would you pay 315 pionts 4 a squad of 5 th/ss wolf gaurd?

[WestRider]

Also, note that the 40 Points from the Vanilla Dex is significantly under-costed for TH/SS Termies. That said, 63 Points is rather over-costed.

If you've got a specific purpose for them, in line with their strengths (taking out expensive MCs/ICs), they might still be worth it, but for general purposes, I don't think I'd want to pay more than 50-55 Points for them.

I wouldn't really say the other versions are underpriced, I think they're about right. Regular Terminators pay 40 Points for either SB/PF or twin LCs, and three Points for Counter-Attack or five more on top of that for the option of Re-Rolling Hits instead of Wounds seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Biowraith]

the best way to do it is to have 2 SS/TH termies, for wound allocation against big stuff, then buy guys without TacDreadArm, and maybe some PF or PW.

[n3rvedamage]

lol termys w power wepon are 33 pionts and a regular wolf gaurd w power wepon is 28 pionts so i think ill pay the exrta 5 pionts 4 termy armor lol