Need new list soon.

[orkblasta]

Hey guys I need some help, I'm going to face my friends tau this weekend in two days and I was hoping for some ideas on a list for my marines. I play a 6000pts list pretty balanced except for lack of transports. We'll probably be playing a 1000-1500pt game any ideas.

just make suggestions and I'll probably be able to match the idea, I just have lack of transports, (1 Rhino, 1 Razorback, and 1 LRC.) and only one squad of termies.

[killercroc]

hmm, at this small of a game he will be lacking in any cc units (go figure) so most likly a cc list with a distraction of heavy fire whilst you get those termies in your LRC into his line?

[munky42]

Close combat with rhinos and/or razorbacks for sure. Preferably a land raider to take on railgun fire even though a penetrating hit will be scored on 5+ and the least it can do with a penetration is stun the crew. Vehicles will be necessary to get troops into cc but will be vulnerable to almost everything except kroot.

[orkblasta]

Hey would it be effective to use my scouts and my land speeders to use their deepstrike to get close as to be within firing at the first turn or would they probably be a bad investment and waist of points.

[trogdor]

Well the lrc with termies running up in his face is always a good tactic. If you were gonna deepstrike your land speeder i would use it to kill some hammerheads or broadsides as they are super awesome and stuff. So i recommend giving it multi meltas and ds-ing as close as you can get and blasting them.

[orkblasta]

sorry to say my plans with the tau player fell apart he had trouble and got caught in a warp storm. But keep the ideas coming their very helpful.

[munky42]

Broadsides are commonly used in the back of an army in squads of 2r 3. We all know they can fire all the way across the board. Broadsides in cover are worse. I'll leave it to you to figure this one out... if he has them.

[n3rvedamage]

don't use the LRC vs tau ull just get it blown up instead take a couple dreads w las cannon/missiles it will pop those pesky broadsides and that annoying jumpy crud that the battle suit's do.remember a squad of NORMAL sm with ONE power weapon will eat broadsides alive (unless it has a 30 pt invone drone)and walk your dreads up WILE firing your heavy weapons remember there still ws4 str 6 put one slightly in front of the other 4 a 4+ cover save wile the front pops smoke then move the back to the front and do it again thats 2 turns of cover saves 4 Ur dreads 2 walk up the filed.o and don't b afraid to foot slog marines across the filed remember you still have a 3+ save and theres not that Meany rounds tau can put down per turn.i also gree that land speeders own they will hunt down battle suit's like no to marrow so i suggest trading in the LRC and Termys 4 dreads and speeders because the LRC will get focus fired by rail guns and fusion cannons and at 1000-1500 points its a huge loss wile on the other hand dreads arnt as menacing and will survive a bit longer.the same goes 4 the termys the tau player will just consolidate away from the turms and just outmaneuver them wile slowly picking that 2+ save apart last i checked tau rapped fire at 15 in and you need all of 12 to assault,bottom line is that the tau are fast and have strong weapons but few shots and suck in CQB so minimize there strengths and maximize there weaknesses wile minimizing your weaknesses to them and capitalizing on your entire army's mix of COB and over all better survivability

[orkblasta]

I do agree that against tau my LRC will get targeted and my terminator won't be able to catch them but I usually do something different with my terminators and get them to attack his fire warriors or kroot and spread them out so I can be closer to the next squad when I win. Also should I take Captain Cato Sicarius as my HQ and use him to give one of my tac squads infiltrate? Then I will have more infiltrate fire power closer to the enemy.

[ryshi]

First off....6000 points and you lack transports? How on earth did you manage that?

I suggest.....a deepstrike heavy army if you can pull it off. Also use ALL your transports and the LRC. Put CC termies in the LRC, move it 6" towards your opponent a turn and unload las into any vehicles they have.

If you have dreads take em, but yeah. Get vehicles

[orkblasta]

I am currently working on the transport situation I know it was stupid to have an army without many transports, but when I started collecting I was in the state of mind that getting the most powerful things in the army was the to go but now I understand the value of the common transport. Also keep in mind that my friend the tau player isn't exactly a very strategic player so he falls for traps quite easily.

ryshi: My list includes a Masters of the Chapter (marneus calgar and honor guard with a master of the watch, fleet, arsenal, and recruits a 1400pt formation), apoc formation and a line breaker squadron, (3 vindicator tanks a 550pt formation). I know some expensive units but in apoc games man they are useful.