Dark Eldar-Majiger

[CylonDorado]

Ok, there is this one guy who always talks about how he can't wait to start Dark Eldar, how awsome Dark Eldar are, and this unit called a "Grotesque." He says it can only be affected by S6 or more weapons (at least at range), and all others fail to do jack against it. Is this true? And if so why havn't I heard of it, and how annoying it would seem to Tau Players and all their S5.

[Redwax]

I played them and that how my opponent said and hes the kind of guy who memorises his codex so yea thats right as far as i'm aware. This can be annoying seeing as i didnt know this and all the guns which could do anything were deployed on the other side of the table

[Haraio [MALAL]]

Yeah, Grotesques can only be affected by S6 and have two wounds each, but to my memory they are only T3, so S6 will kill them outright if they fail saves. So just point a Devilfex at them and laugh ;D

[CylonDorado]

Wow, that's amazing. And yes, my deathspitters will have a field day.

[Psychichobo]

They really aren't anything special. That rule only works with shooting too, so combat wise they're pretty easy to kill. Though you auto fail ld tests if you lose, so make sure synapse is around just in case.

[CylonDorado]

So, what is the fluff behind this? That effectivly means that they are immune to d-cannons and that thing wraith-guard carry (I should know, since I play Eldar and all ) since they don't have a strength value. Arn't those things just shambling bits of meat sewn together?

[Psychichobo]

A Grotesque is basically a Dark Eldar who has for some reason taken too much drugs or fallen foul of a Homunculus and been experimented on and tortured to the extent where their minds have been destroyed, and are left as mindless hulks, deformed, mutilated, and lacking a nervous system. Therefore, they freak out people so much that losing combat causes an auto-fall back unless you're fearless, and can shrug off bullets because they literally cannot feel pain - as opposed to the regular Feel No Pain, which isn't as good.

D-cannons and wraith cannons I believe will work on them, but only if you roll a 6 for the instant death causer.

[Jason]

Don't forget they are stupid too. Basically, they are gaunts out of synapse (without lurk) although I do not believe a Ld test would make the grotesques run, just stay put. So, I'd say your opponent would field at least a haemonculus with them all the time. Rememeber wound allocation. Kill the character, and the grotesques are pretty useless.

[gael]

Pretty much what the others said. I'm starting them up also, and I will have 3 with Urien, so you should be seeing them at some point, even though I am not the player in question. My box of goodies just came in today actually.

The S6 thing is only good for shooting. They are normal in CC. The rule is that either it kills them by instant death or they just shrug it off. The justification in CC is that you can still chop them up.

[Psychichobo]

Remember, with regular Grotesques and Homunculi they'd be an IC joining a squad. If it's Urien Rakarth, however, his Uber Grotesques count as an actual retinue.

[gael]

I want to throw in a quick question here. Where is the Disintegrator with the Raider models? I see the Dark Lance, but I have no idea where the Disintegrator is....

[ram1991]

another thing to mention on grotesques is that they have no armour save to speak of at all, so in CC... Hit first and do a lot of damage, you do have 2 wounds a piece though.

[gael]

Normal ones do not, however, Uber Grotesques get a 5+. Easy to forget.

[Psychichobo]

The disintegrator can only be found on the Ravager model, wherein you get three of them and one dark lance. It's annoying, but DE are a bit of a pain to wysiwyg.

Ooh, Uber Grots have a save... never noticed that...

[gael]

-.- Thank you. Do I have any option besides green stuff for non-splinter rifle weapons for Warriors? I really, REALLY don't want to shell out for the money for the metal models. That I would have to order online....