Odd call by GW...

[CylonDorado]

Ok, so I was talking to a fellow Eldar player the other night who despratly wants me to trade him my 4 "extra" guardians (I use the term loosly because I hardly ever run one full squad of 20. Actually come to think of it, I never have ). I told him running them in a squad of 20 wasn't that great of an idea really, and he said it was amazing because he can add his vibro cannon squad to it. At this I was like WTF dude, you can't do that. And he said he could because a GW guy said he could in a tournament. I even pulled out the codex and looked through it, and couldn't find anything. Basiclly, he's saying that gun crews can join his troops choice like they're all independant characters or something. Is there any credence to this? And if not, how can I convince him that GW guys are not always right (I've heard a myriad of stories about just how inept they can be)? I wouldn't want to have to deal with this BS if I ever had to play him.

[hivefleetezekial]

If the codex doesn't have an option for it, then there simply isn't the option for it. GW redshirts make some really bizare rulings sometimes (which has lead to their reputation of not knowing jack-all about the actual rules). Tournement organizers, on the other hand, can freely make up whatever house rules for their tourny that they want.

[Jason]

Usually, the store makes the employees dictators. Where only the sacred codex may ever contradict their rulings. Show them the codex, then in your mind, vow their inevitable demise.

[mictlan]

I'm guessing he was confused and was thinking of the guardian heavy weapon team that is mandatory with a guardian squad.

[dumbdrum]

i think he is all confused with the orks mob rule kinda thing

[CylonDorado]

Apr 29, 2009 0:08:07 GMT mictlan said:

I'm guessing he was confused and was thinking of the guardian heavy weapon team that is mandatory with a guardian squad.

THAT makes sense.

I don't understand what that would have to do with mob rule though. Doesn't that have to do with leadership?

[braytac]

just let him prove that it is legal to do.
if he cant show you where it says that it is legal he cant use it.

[zandy]

Sounds like a half assed attempt to cheat. I do wonder where GW get their staff from, which is one reason I avoid official stores.

[Psychichobo]

Who was it on this site that mentioned that a tourney adviser ruled that Daemons have to come on the same way as everyone else did in Dawn of War... weird.
Yeah, often you really need to ring up and then hope you get someone who knows what they're on about. From what I've heard they really are less keen on hiring actual gamers these days...

[gael]

PLEASE tell me this is wrong. Or I'm going to have to strangle this said Eldar player. Because I play him frequently and I know he's going to try this -.-

Frankly, its sounds like BS for no other reason that squads simply cannot function as independent characters. I can ask him which tournament it was he heard this at, if he was telling you about the one this past weekend, that wasn't an actual GW tournament. I'll figure out where he's getting this from....

[dumbdrum]

old ork dex where you could merge squads after wounds

[CylonDorado]

May 1, 2009 1:47:39 GMT gael said:

PLEASE tell me this is wrong. Or I'm going to have to strangle this said Eldar player. Because I play him frequently and I know he's going to try this -.-

Frankly, its sounds like BS for no other reason that squads simply cannot function as independent characters. I can ask him which tournament it was he heard this at, if he was telling you about the one this past weekend, that wasn't an actual GW tournament. I'll figure out where he's getting this from....

Easy now, fuzzy little man-peach (Lol, Old Greg). I just talked to him last Thursday, and he had already figured it out and admitted he was wrong. All is well ;D.

[zzapper]

Eh it depends on the weapon, some weapons *can* be taken in addition to guardian squads on a platform, however I'm a bit fuzzy on which weapons can be taken in this fashion. But the do not count as an IC, the weapon is part of the squad

[CylonDorado]

All guardian squads (a troops choice) that are not storm guardians must take a heavy weapon platform with 2 crew members. That can be a shuriken cannon, a scatter laser, an Eldar missle launcher, a bright lance, or a star cannon. They blend into the squad just fine.

There's also a group of indirect fire guns that can be taken as heavy support choices that are so large that they can't be moved and fired even though they are on grav platforms. These are the D-cannon, the Shadow weaver, and the vibro-cannon. I believe that one squad can consist of up to 3 guns with I think 2-3 guardians per gun and a warlock if you please. That guy thaught that one of these gun squads could join a group of normal guardians.

[zzapper]

Well that's understandable as the run weren't too clear (should've stated clearly that the two weren't the same)