necron baneblade anyone?

[TheLittleRipper]

Hey all, as being the only necron player at my local GW (well only one who doesn’t try and "bend" the rules of WBB) the staff there keep trying to egg me on about building a necron baneblade

At first I was disgusted at the idea of making one because as nice as the baneblade kit is, to make it suitably necy I would have to cannibalize a monolith for parts, and I said I would rather have a monolith than a baneblade, the case is still true now but I have 3 monoliths (one of which lights up) and I think a necron baneblade could look really cool ;D

but as I have been searching through various forums and searches I have not found anyone who has even attempted such a task so I come here to all of you in this forum, if anyone knows of someone who has tried this could you please direct me to it?

If no one can find anything they I may have to do it myself

My basic idea was to replace the sponsor mounted lascannons with heavy gauss cannons and the two sponsor mounted heavy bolters with gauss cannons. obviously the baneblade will NOT be on its tracks, it will be floating instead (have seen a couple tau baneblades and it really does sicken me to think that tau would allow it to leave for battle on tracks, even though they are very good conversions) but here is where I hit a snag in the plan, I am not sure what to do with the turret or the hull mounted demolisher, perhaps mount the crystal on the top of the turret?

Anyways any help on this would be very much appreciated

Thanks in advance

TLR

[Enigma]

Well, the baneblade cannon could be replaced with a "special" necron cannon, the demolishor could just count as a particle whip. For the crystal from ze monolith, cut off all but the top, and trim it until it can protrude from the back, like the inside is all crystal, and a little is sticking out. Good luck, and post pics when and if you finish!

[TheLittleRipper]

I have had a few suggestions from staff and friends at my local GW, mainly that i should remove the demoslisher completly and replace it with 3 heavy gauss cannons together and count that as the whip

also with the main cannon, to use the muzzle and the mounting and removing the rest of the barrel inbetween, making a lil "cage" to mount the crystal inside, good idea or not? just using the normal baneblade cannon rules but without the autocannon.

for the body removing all of the rivits for the living metal, replacing the engine at the back with that from a monolith with the canopy, and putting some jets and part of the base from the monolith under the baneblade's trackless frame to show it skimming

with living metal and BS4 i make it about 650-700 points, any other suggetions?

i will post pics when i start

TLR

[Overread]

I agree with the idea of removing the tracks but I think that hte idea of a baneblade necron style needs to look really heavy and solid. You could try putting engine elements aroud the sides - pointing down - to represent the additional force needed to keep the monster in the air.

[TheLittleRipper]

I agree with the idea of removing the tracks but I think that hte idea of a baneblade necron style needs to look really heavy and solid. You could try putting engine elements aroud the sides - pointing down - to represent the additional force needed to keep the monster in the air.

thanks for the support ;D, i am basically butchering a monolith to complete this project, breaks my heart just thinking about it.

i will be taking the jets from the side of the monolith and mounting them onto the side of the baneblade but i am not too sure whether or not that will be enough

TLR

[wormwood]

Perhaps legs like those of a tombspider would be good on the conversion.

[Koyori]

I would suggest making it a necron scorpion/cobra/void spinner/storm serpent (eldar super heavy tanks), instead of a baneblade. Would make more sense as necrons and eldar alike have a thing for skimmers. Or make it a Abattoir which is the largest ground vehicle necrons have (Warlord titan sized).

[koran]

OK, Im going to start this by saying that I HATE the idea of a necron baneblade... why the hell would they have one and second everyone and their dog has a baneblade now, do something different. Koyori's idea of making an Abattoir is great. One its necron specific; two it will be cheaper (maybe two monoliths pluss plasticard as opposed to a baneblade and a monolith (possibly more for weapons); third have you seen a necron abattoir anywhere? I cant remember having seen one making it more original and as there arnt many pictures around you could go wild with your imagination.

If you do insist on making a baneblade I would suggest thinking about using the weapon from the eldar fire prism as it looks like (well is) a huge crystal mounted as a weapon with things looking like its holding it in place....

[TheLittleRipper]

Perhaps legs like those of a tombspider would be good on the conversion.

i wouldnt even dare attempt to do that as cool as an idea as it is it just seems a lil too difficult for my modeling skills ;D

I would suggest making it a necron scorpion/cobra/void spinner/storm serpent (eldar super heavy tanks), instead of a baneblade. Would make more sense as necrons and eldar alike have a thing for skimmers. Or make it a Abattoir which is the largest ground vehicle necrons have (Warlord titan sized).

this conversion may be converted from a baneblade but i will not be calling it as such, and like i have said in previous posts this will be a skimmer because i think tau and necrons should have skimming tanks instead of tracks. eldar wouldnt touch a baneblade because of so many right angles

OK, Im going to start this by saying that I HATE the idea of a necron baneblade... why the hell would they have one and second everyone and their dog has a baneblade now, do something different. Koyori's idea of making an Abattoir is great. One its necron specific; two it will be cheaper (maybe two monoliths pluss plasticard as opposed to a baneblade and a monolith (possibly more for weapons); third have you seen a necron abattoir anywhere? I cant remember having seen one making it more original and as there arnt many pictures around you could go wild with your imagination.

If you do insist on making a baneblade I would suggest thinking about using the weapon from the eldar fire prism as it looks like (well is) a huge crystal mounted as a weapon with things looking like its holding it in place....

it is always nice to see some negative feedback on ideas, and i am not being sarcastic, because not everyone should like every idea that comes around.

i agree that everyone now has a baneblade i was exactly the same when the baneblade kit came out, all the staff was trying to get me to buy one but i just refused because i said i would rather have two more monoliths (which i have now) so i wanted to do a big conversion for my necrons, you dont often get those in a cron army.

as cool an idea making an Abattoir is again i think it will be beyond my modeling skill and my imagination

using the prism cannon has been suggested to me before but as i can no longer order just the cannon from the GW website, no more bits, i dont really want to shell out £30 for something i am taking only one part from. if i did manage to get hold of a cannon i would have to cut, file and possibly drill out all of the crystal surfaces of the cannon to get the housing for my crystal, the really sad thing is i think the housing from the prism cannon will be too big for my monolith crystal

does anyone have any suggestions how to make a cage to house my crystal, i was thinking bits of sprue (might be a bit bulky) or some metal rods, thoughts on points too?

thanks for all the input

TLR

[Koyori]

thelittleripper said:

as cool an idea making an Abattoir is again i think it will be beyond my modeling skill and my imagination

Making a Abattoir is actually not that hard at all. If you know how to draw straight lines and cut/saw along em you will be fine. you would just have to get some plasticard/balsa wood, then make a template, somewhat like the monolith (or to your liking ^^) cut it out and glue it together. Really its a very easy job compared to much else.

[hivefleetsiafu]

what the heck does an abattoir look like? sounds cool ;D

[koran]

There are a number of versions of what people think one looks like... To make one (because of the necron design being all square edges and such) should be pretty straight forward...

The most common version of thought is that it is a floating platform with a few (probably four, one at each corner) smaller pyramids and a central larger pyramid.

If I was to do it I would probably use multiple levels of thick plastic or ply wood (maybe about 5mm) and build up the base in layers as this would make a solid type box (trust me, hollow boxes NEVER stay in the correct shape). And this would make it easy to create stairs up to the pyramid complex.... Then making the pyramids should be easy enough (four triangles for each) and then you need to decide on the central one.. Maybe use a monolith kit and bluk it up a bit.... Maybe two monolith kits so you can use the engines for keeping the thing up... Then you have two crystals to play about with as well as multiple guns and the thing will have cost you the same as a baneblade plus a bit for the plastic/wood. All in all cheaper and would be SO much cooler/in character/fluff like. And then the rules for it can be adapted from the monolith... AND you could allow necrons to ride on top of it but not count as in a vehicle so they can fire and be shot at, like they were in a building... but its moving. Some REALLY cool custom missions for apocalypse could be made for that.... Mmm.... Im kinda tempting myself here... DAMN! NO! Concentrate on current projects! No new armies!

[Koyori]

koran: Someone already made rules for the Abattoir. Can be found here: www.siegeworld.com/downloads/units/necron/Necron_Abatoir.doc

[koran]

Yeah, Ive seen them before... I like most of it but some of it needs tweeking in my mind.

See I like those rules but some of them are a bit much... For example the ability to make that many scarab swarms is just too much in my eyes, and the idea of making tomb spiders is WAY too much. In that example in a turn it could create 12 scarab bases and two tomb spiders.... WHAT THE HELL!

I would probably say that if you choose to make some scarab bases is should either only be D3... Id be more tempted to make it D6 but say on the roll of a 1 you make none and it looses a structure point. Also because I like the idea of a broken pyramid with hundreds swarming out say that when at 5 structure points or lower the power suply becomes erratic giving the possibility that more swarms are created but making a power drain more likely and possible catastrophic... roll 2D6 and create that many swarms, if EITHER dice is a 1 none are created and the abatoir takes a structure point in damage. If two 1's are rolled it looses D6 structure points! I think that gives the ability to creat scarabs but it leaves it still being a bit dangerous (like it should be).

I would also make any necrons standing on it count as being between monoliths, like the apocalypse datafax/sheet/whatever its called.

Last possibility... allow tomb spiders or scarabs to repair it... Im not sure as this could make it too powerfull... Maybe something like roll a D6 for a tomb scorpion: on a 6 repair one lost (so it cant go above starting values) structure point but the spider looses one wound (the energy used). On a 1 the toomb scorpion uses too much energy and counts as destroyed (without fixing the damage (again adding in a risk to doing it). And maybe sacrifice 3D6 scarab swarms to fix a structure point. If you roll more than there are scarabs in base to base or on it then they are all sacrificed but the damage is not repaired!

Maybe the fixing it adds to many rules also... But it would make for a fun game if the enemy had to destroy the abatoir and the necrons had to get it to full power (maybe starting it on 5 structure points and the necron side having numerous tomb spiders....

[The Tomato]

You could make it to look like a gigantic destroyer by remooving the tracks and building destroyer-like jets underneath...