10th Is there way to deal with vehicles without destroying?

[yowster12]

Jun 15, 2023 16:56:23 GMT gman25639 said:

Old One Eye attached to a pair of Crushing Claw Carnifexes in Strategic Reserves plus the Rapid Ingress stratagem seems like a good idea. Either your opponent will avoid the edges of the table with his heavy vehicles or you bring the smashy bois in on Battle Round 2, at the end of THEIR movement phase and get a turn 2 charge off and rip a Land Raider apart.

Rupture Cannon Tyrannofexes also seem like an option. Take 2 and set them up with good sight lines, he'll avoid their lanes of fire or be shot with a pair of 2 Shots, S18, AP-4 2D6 Damage guns that hit on 2s.

Heck, DO BOTH.

Now With points at hand it seems doing both is not possible unless you want to tie in 790pts at once.

[gman25639]

Jun 16, 2023 18:01:47 GMT yowster12 said:

Jun 15, 2023 16:56:23 GMT gman25639 said:

Old One Eye attached to a pair of Crushing Claw Carnifexes in Strategic Reserves plus the Rapid Ingress stratagem seems like a good idea. Either your opponent will avoid the edges of the table with his heavy vehicles or you bring the smashy bois in on Battle Round 2, at the end of THEIR movement phase and get a turn 2 charge off and rip a Land Raider apart.

Rupture Cannon Tyrannofexes also seem like an option. Take 2 and set them up with good sight lines, he'll avoid their lanes of fire or be shot with a pair of 2 Shots, S18, AP-4 2D6 Damage guns that hit on 2s.

Heck, DO BOTH.

Now With points at hand it seems doing both is not possible unless you want to tie in 790pts at once.

I will GLADLY tie 790 points into 2 Tyrannofexes, 2 Carnifexes and Old One Eye! Monster Mash is awesome.

[yowster12]

Jun 16, 2023 20:48:25 GMT gman25639 said:

Jun 16, 2023 18:01:47 GMT yowster12 said:

Now With points at hand it seems doing both is not possible unless you want to tie in 790pts at once.

I will GLADLY tie 790 points into 2 Tyrannofexes, 2 Carnifexes and Old One Eye! Monster Mash is awesome.

And I can totally respect that 😁

[dkng]

Jun 14, 2023 8:06:37 GMT alx51 said:

Just take the hyper-agression adaptation if the ennemy has lots of vehicules, quite good with high volume of fire. Shockcannons seems OK also.

They are not with -1 AP and poor volume to mitigate it.

[piersonsmuppet]

The traditional methods; move block and tie up. They aren't terribly great this edition though as move blocking is always terrain dependent and overwatch can shoot at non-chargers, and tying up only provides a 1 to-hit (unless the Monster/Vehicle has a PISTOL).

I don't think we have a legitimate single answer. Which is honestly good imo; it's going to take a smart mix of multiple tactics to deal with Vehicles/Monsters.

[No One]

piersonsmuppet said:

They aren't terribly great this edition though as move blocking is always terrain dependent and overwatch can shoot at non-chargers, and tying up only provides a 1 to-hit (unless the Monster/Vehicle has a PISTOL).

Honestly the fact that you can moveblock Fly means it's probably more powerful. The way BGNT worked previously it was still possible to achieve the same effect, since some units could shoot into combat with secondaries to free the main gun, or just shoot out entirely (guard), and it was still a useful tool to control sightlines/future angles (or objective threat depending on army e.g. knights/nids).

Overwatch is maybe an issue, but we've got ways around it e.g. gargs, to a lesser extend bios, and I'm not super scared about most unit's overwatch, just like current (and with less CP and more important strats, people are unlikely to spend on a 'maybe' kill enough, which would almost always be the case bar auto hits).

But yes, that's not likely to be a 'win game' answer on its own.