New Tyranid Trailer?

[panzerfront]

youtu.be/kZZ_7f1Bkpo

GW posted this video and I'm wondering if we'll see something new soon in their release schedule.

[LordPathos]

Yeah. It's the 10th edition box set XD

And our range refreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!

*Air horns!*

[yoritomo]

GW also published a still of the final frame. Here’s a link:

www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/12/echoes-from-the-warp/?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GW_12th_March_Transmission_ENG_&utm_content=&utm_term=

It’s tough to say what this is. My first reaction is Space Hulk. They chose a terminator for a reason, and tyranids with terminators screams space hulk re-release to me.

There’s also the new Space Marine 2 video game on the horizon. If I recall correctly this one is going to be Space Marines vs. Tyranids.

And we can’t forget the 10 edition rumors of marines and tyranids in the box set.

The terminator in the still looks blue, which points to the video game. But the terminator looks red to me in the video, which makes me think attack on Baal 10th edition box set or re-release of Space Hulk 3rd edition.

But what do you think?

[Snaekhar Venomblood]

While I have not been impressed at yet another edition of new 40K, especially one that is taking front and centre at the expense of Warhammer: The Old World, I have found the possibility of Tyranids getting a potential load of new stuff interesting and exciting.

This trailer lines up with some rumours I saw on BoLS about the 10th Edition boxed game including terminators on the Marine side - it's nice to see Firstborn getting some love after it being all about pointless Primaris for so long - which is further evidence that Tyranids will be getting the Necron treatment in the new edition.

[acehilator]

It's not Space Hulk. It confirms one of Valraks sources correct again, they chose a Terminator for the teaser because they are getting new models alongside ours.

Also, there are still people who are surprised that after a new edition of 40k is before a new edition of 40k? After repeating this cycle nine times? Really?

And Old World compared to a new edition of 40k is like an afterthought below the footnote. Does not even register on the radar, and Old World releasing this year is one of the shakiest rumours out there to begin with.

[Snaekhar Venomblood]

Mar 12, 2023 21:35:37 GMT acehilator said:

It's not Space Hulk. It confirms one of Valraks sources correct again, they chose a Terminator for the teaser because they are getting new models alongside ours.

Also, there are still people who are surprised that after a new edition of 40k is before a new edition of 40k? After repeating this cycle nine times? Really?

And Old World compared to a new edition of 40k is like an afterthought below the footnote. Does not even register on the radar, and Old World releasing this year is one of the shakiest rumours out there to begin with.

I just think 10th Edition is pointless given that 9th had even less time to breathe than previous editions due to the COVID era, and I'm sure there are others out there who share my views.

2023 is the 40th anniversary of Warhammer Fantasy, so it is the perfect year to release TOW, a game that has been in development for far too long after its announcement and is meant to be the resurrection of a game GW needlessly shitted on. Far more important than a 10th Edition  of 40K. But then, only someone who witnessed the greatness of Warhammer Fantasy in its prime will fully understand its importance.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Looks like space hulk to me but I don't think they'd drop a new video for that. It's probably the 10e boxes set.

I seriously hope they do a space hulk kill team set with bespoke terminator and tyranid kill teams. It's the perfect time for it with 10e rumors + the arks of omen campaign.

[Snaekhar Venomblood]

Mar 13, 2023 11:47:00 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Looks like space hulk to me but I don't think they'd drop a new video for that. It's probably the 10e boxes set.

I seriously hope they do a space hulk kill team set with bespoke terminator and tyranid kill teams. It's the perfect time for it with 10e rumors + the arks of omen campaign.

That would be potentially interesting, but I hope that that's not the one thing GW does with this trailer before going on to showcase a completely different faction loadout in the 10th Edition box. GW are excellent at missing opportunities.

[acehilator]

Mar 13, 2023 8:58:41 GMT Snaekhar Venomblood said:

I just think 10th Edition is pointless given that 9th had even less time to breathe than previous editions due to the COVID era, and I'm sure there are others out there who share my views.

2023 is the 40th anniversary of Warhammer Fantasy, so it is the perfect year to release TOW, a game that has been in development for far too long after its announcement and is meant to be the resurrection of a game GW needlessly shitted on. Far more important than a 10th Edition  of 40K. But then, only someone who witnessed the greatness of Warhammer Fantasy in its prime will fully understand its importance.

Sure, but it still shouldn't be a surprise. Especially if you are an old-time fan, you should know how GW works by now.

Regarding TOW, I have a sneaking suspicion you are living in the past where its importance is concerned. AoS is the thing now, and it's not going away. Maybe the original plan was to release TOW this year, but there is no way that plan survived Covid. Or they force it through and it's going to be a s*itshow of epic proportions. GW can't even keep up stock for current models. Doesn't matter if its 40k or AoS, 20-30% of products are unavailable, even for newly released Codizes/Battletomes, often for months. Availability for HH stuff took over half a year to stabilize, and there is always too little stock of new releases even now. FW can barely keep up with the increased HH demand for the stuff not shifted to plastic yet, so they don't have free capacity either.

Could be wrong, but I'm not buying TOW2023. Starter set for christmas, maaaaaybe?

[Mauler]

I doubt it's Space Hulk - Ultramarines never really figured into it much (mainly Blood Angels & Deathwing) and that's a new Tyranid, not a Genestealer.

Is most likely 10th edition. We've not had a significant overhaul for a while now, and neither have Terminators. Up to 7E 40k was released in rough 4-year cycles, for 8-9E it's more like 3 years and this is the 3rd year for 9th, so it fits.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing Tyranids get modern models again which'll be great but I can't say that I particularly care at all about 10E given how disappointing 8th & 9th have been. My group turned to Necromunda a bit but mostly Adeptus Titanicus and how Heresy 2E to keep us in the hobby as none of us really find anything rewarding in the new simplified 40k nonsense.

But yeah, 10th.

[purestrain]

I dont get the allure of HH, its just bolter porn while you throw one die at a time at your 2+ save sarge until someone wins the game.

[Mauler]

Mar 14, 2023 18:37:37 GMT purestrain said:

I dont get the allure of HH, its just bolter porn while you throw one die at a time at your 2+ save sarge until someone wins the game.

Bit of a weird take given that every unit outside of the Troops slot can pretty much take another weapon that's not a bolter...if you were complaining about too much power armour then I'd kinda get it but even then there are Rites of War which allow you to field all vehicles or all dreadnought forces, amongst other things.  I can field Knights and Mechanicum instead of just my DA too, plus rules for Daemons (and Militia) are incoming, so there's other ways to play other than just Tactical Squads.

We always enjoyed the 6th/7th edition ruleset; it is pretty logical, comprehensive and representative compared to 8th & 9th which followed it.  It makes a lot more sense: models better in melee are harder to hit, small arms can't damage harder targets regardless of volume of fire, models aren't just swept from the table into a bucket for losing a close combat and failing a morale check, working out cover isn't some drawing-line nonsense where a vehicle can put it's rear into some woodland and get a cover bonus vs fire to it's front out in the breeze, flanking a vehicle has no strategic value, you need to remember 8,495 different strategems....eh, just no thanks.  Making a game more abstract via simplification so that it plays faster and appeals to a specific demographic is bound to alienate those who prefer a more in-depth experience.  Some of the new stuff is good but not enough to make up for the stuff we didn't like.

If the rumour saying that 10th will do away with S vs T is true then GW might as well just reprint the AOS rules with a different look, lol.  I'd be glad to not spend money on any of that; more funds for Necromunda, AT & HH.  If other people enjoy that though then fair play to them, it's just a shame that after 30+ years of playing different versions of 40k the current mess means that a load of my stuff just gathers dust.

[purestrain]

So no real defense of it, just deflections. Neat.


Anyhow, that thing that was looking at the terminator seemed more like a lictor, maybe the alpha or Prime that was speculated about.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Hard to tell. I was thinking a hormogaunt originally just something about the face. Could be a warrior though or just a generic tyranid.

[Snaekhar Venomblood]

Mar 14, 2023 19:43:17 GMT Mauler said:

Mar 14, 2023 18:37:37 GMT purestrain said:

I dont get the allure of HH, its just bolter porn while you throw one die at a time at your 2+ save sarge until someone wins the game.

Bit of a weird take given that every unit outside of the Troops slot can pretty much take another weapon that's not a bolter...if you were complaining about too much power armour then I'd kinda get it but even then there are Rites of War which allow you to field all vehicles or all dreadnought forces, amongst other things.  I can field Knights and Mechanicum instead of just my DA too, plus rules for Daemons (and Militia) are incoming, so there's other ways to play other than just Tactical Squads.

We always enjoyed the 6th/7th edition ruleset; it is pretty logical, comprehensive and representative compared to 8th & 9th which followed it.  It makes a lot more sense: models better in melee are harder to hit, small arms can't damage harder targets regardless of volume of fire, models aren't just swept from the table into a bucket for losing a close combat and failing a morale check, working out cover isn't some drawing-line nonsense where a vehicle can put it's rear into some woodland and get a cover bonus vs fire to it's front out in the breeze, flanking a vehicle has no strategic value, you need to remember 8,495 different strategems....eh, just no thanks.  Making a game more abstract via simplification so that it plays faster and appeals to a specific demographic is bound to alienate those who prefer a more in-depth experience.  Some of the new stuff is good but not enough to make up for the stuff we didn't like.

If the rumour saying that 10th will do away with S vs T is true then GW might as well just reprint the AOS rules with a different look, lol.  I'd be glad to not spend money on any of that; more funds for Necromunda, AT & HH.  If other people enjoy that though then fair play to them, it's just a shame that after 30+ years of playing different versions of 40k the current mess means that a load of my stuff just gathers dust.

On one hand, Mauler is right, there are still many different options in the Horus Heresy Space Marine armies, plus it's the resurrection of the true 40K ruleset that was honed and perfected over two and a half decades since 40K first made an appearance in 1987. I never got on board with the current editions and continue to play 5th and 6th to this day, because I'd rather enjoy the complex, tactical and engaging gameplay of those 40K rules and build army lists quickly, easily and efficiently, than play a much more basic game with a far more complex and bureaucratic army building and management system.

However, I also sympathise with purestrain 's view in that the good Space Marines vs bad Space Marines theme is just so boring, the ultimate embodiment of what GW idolises in 40K (when we all really know that the Xenos factions are the coolest and most important part ). Now if GW introduced the Xenos races into Horus Heresy, I would become a lot more interested, but I doubt that will ever happen while GW want it to appeal to their dreary Imperium vs Chaos fetish. The fact that some of the Xenos races hadn't even arrived in the 40K galaxy at that point (in the case of Tyranids and the Leagues of Votann), were still dormant at the time (in the case of the Necrons) or hadn't evolved yet (in the case of the Genestealer Cults and Tau), also doesn't help matters.