Tyranocyte strategy

[Bohxim]

I like these little egg sacs. And I wanna have a semi trolly list with 1 of them to just mess with my opfo's game plan. Don't need to win, but would be fun to make them work for the win lol. So we all know how we can have up to 6 multi-wound infantry in the egg.. Figured try something different instead of the usual 6 warriors or pyros


I had 2 ideas in mind for some general annoyances and wanted to see the hive's opinions, ESP if it's too nasty and creates feel-bads.

1st list is levi patrol detachment aiming for lots of MW: double neuro, a free 4man zoan unit, 2x 3man zoan units riding in T.cyte with voracious ammo. 3x biovores and big group of warriors. Other stuff like an exo and a harpy around to fill points. The 4man zoan will start on board with neuros to allow imperative. Turn 1 drop pod the 2 units of zoans to burn a flank.

2nd list is a levi detachment with tyrant guards and zoan in T.cyte with synapse Adaptive. Flyrant, neuro, warriors, raveners and exo for rough estimate of rest of army
This allows shardlure for the tyrant guards To have a decent charge chance + make the guards nearer for the Flyrant to get look out sir. And the T.cyte doubles as additional >10w monster to further protect the Flyrant. I figured this allowed me to move Flyrant pretty aggressively even if they deployed further back from no man's land instead of slowly crossing and becoming a shooting gallery.

Trolly but not too feel-bad?

[alx51]

Try deathleaper and 5 warriors, give synapse to the tcyte, stack all the charge bonus you can and you can give a nasty t1 surprise

[Bohxim]

Deathleaper could natively deep strike already. Unless I want it to come down turn 1 too
Edit: sorry missed the last part of your comment. Ya possible possible.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Sounds like an interesting strategy. Try it out and let us know how it works

[dkng]

Fun as hell although not too practical is to load a Kronos Toxicrene into the 'cyte, drop it, shoot with the tentacles (possible due to Kronos +4 range), play the Toxic Entanglement strat, pray for not rolling a 1, add in the Shard Lure and charge with the big nasty hentai monster.

Yeah... don't do it though, it's silly

[No One]

I'm enjoying running Kronos pyro pod with territorial: pyros show up, do some damage, be obnoxious to kill, then the t-cyte generally lives if I can drop on zoan imperative turn to run on an objective and flip it.

[Bohxim]

Nov 3, 2022 12:57:51 GMT dkng said:

Fun as hell although not too practical is to load a Kronos Toxicrene into the 'cyte, drop it, shoot with the tentacles (possible due to Kronos +4 range), play the Toxic Entanglement strat, pray for not rolling a 1, add in the Shard Lure and charge with the big nasty hentai monster.

Yeah... don't do it though, it's silly

Wouldn't mind trying. But that would require me to have a toxicrene, which I haven't been able to get a set from my nearby game store recently since the malaceptor craze XD

[Bohxim]

Nov 3, 2022 13:39:53 GMT No One said:

I'm enjoying running Kronos pyro pod with territorial: pyros show up, do some damage, be obnoxious to kill, then the t-cyte generally lives if I can drop on zoan imperative turn to run on an objective and flip it.

Ya those definitely seem prime for drop pods! But it's 1) expensive and hard to acquire and 2) somewhat known so not as trolly.
But! Once I do get 3-6 pyros (or find the effort to convert hive guard models), I would like to make this a standard in my lists. Can always decide to deploy the pyros backend and load warriors or zoans instead on the fly

[purestrain]

5 venomthrope and 4 zoanthrope. No one will ever suspect it

[Bohxim]

Will need 2 Cytes tho, since they only carry 6 multi wound infantry each

[purestrain]

Nov 9, 2022 17:19:39 GMT Bohxim said:

Will need 2 Cytes tho, since they only carry 6 multi wound infantry each

Yeah I was thinking about the hierophant. 3 and 3 then I suppose?

[Bohxim]

Hmmm 3-3 venom/zoan in a cyte. Dropping them behind them where the zoans are 18" away means they can only shoot at them reliably (most armies at least), which is then made difficult with venom. I'm liking it. And it's only about 350p! Just slightly worried that the venom might be only there for the defensive buff that coild otherwise be buffing rest of front line

[zimko]

But... why not just start them on the board and do the same thing? Smite from 18" away and venoms screen.

A Tcyte is useful for dropping melee units turn 1 and risking a charge, or short ranged shooting like pyrovores. Zoanthropes tho... you want them on the board in your command phase for the imperative and their range is good enough to not need a tcyte.

[No One]

Yeah: your advantages with bringing a t-cyte are:
- Protection T1: you should easily be able to hide zoans and with Fly they're unlikely to be taking up spots at the expense of other units
- Positioning: your footprint is giant so you can't really do much with this. It does force a bit more effort to screen backline, but mostly all it does let you get range and angles that you otherwise wouldn't. With 18" and closest, zoans don't benefit amazingly from this: it's nice if you can position to be 90% hidden just at 18" and smite something, and you may be out of range T1 if you'd hidden on board depending, but not super useful

Are either of these worth 110 pts with zoans? Nope, and tbh I'd argue not really with anything outside territorial instincts (making your wound sponge pod actually do something is nice). Adding venoms to protect just means you've got a bigger footprint really: they don't offer much protection for just zoans.

[Bohxim]

Ya. Pity.
I know it's not much protection for the zoans. But I was thinking early game degrade of backline vehicles trying to hold home objective, while giving them worry about the number of bodies in their back line. Might force them to thin the front line to deal with that.
Tho the second option was to have a much further tyrant guard deployment for a winged tyrant to overrun back to without giving up too much forward pressure.

But I guess overall more a troll attempt ^^;