Top competitive right now?

[dc0315]

I know we have a great codex. I know most of our options are awesome. I know this book is a godsend compared to previous editions.

But if u had a few pals practicing to go abroad and compete competitively yet you couldnt go. You then offer to train them as hard as you can against nids so if they do face nids, they'd be prepared. What would you take as the most competitive builds for us right now?

I own multiples of everything we have, been solely collecting nids for 20 years, and have competed in ETC and other tournamenrs in england/italy over the years so just point me towards the top lists/builds right now and ill train them well and hard while also enjoying their tears till they go on the trip i cant make in a few months 😅

Thanks in advance!

[Bohxim]

I'd prob say the levi warriors, reaper Flyrant and harpies are still more dominant nids units in competitive. Run a lot of warriors to let them get used to transnids?

[dkng]

MawClaws / Hieghtened Senses Tervigon with a Termagant carpet is on the rise nowadays.

[dc0315]

Sept 28, 2022 7:49:44 GMT dkng said:

MawClaws / Hieghtened Senses Tervigon with a Termagant carpet is on the rise nowadays.

Yeah been playing that since the tyrant nerfs with bodyguard, pts hike and the inoeratuves risk when he dies. I honestly think the tervi imperative is the 2nd best behind warp shielding, was always surprised how it took so long to get into competitive lists, especially since its 1 of the few things that didnt get a pts hike

[dkng]

Sept 28, 2022 8:45:09 GMT dc0315 said:

 1 of the few things that didnt get a pts hike

Yet...



Speaking about imperatives in the void, Tervi's is probably third after Zoan's and Mal's. Sadly in practice Mal is too expensive and nerfed too hard nowadays to be useful.

It's a matter of taste ofcourse but for me personally Tervi SI is third after Zoans and Neuro - this one round of psychic obliteration and MW protection is something I enjoy very much

[purestrain]

Male is still top tier dps, even as a support unit, put enraged reserves on him and he can dish out +3 mortal wounds from just casting support spells or direct damage spells a lot longer than people would expect.

Considering that army wide ignore "x" and ap-1 are becoming more prevalent dumping mortal wounds onto people is a pretty good use of time and its melee isnt that bad either.

[dc0315]

Sept 28, 2022 14:26:31 GMT purestrain said:

Male is still top tier dps, even as a support unit, put enraged reserves on him and he can dish out +3 mortal wounds from just casting support spells or direct damage spells a lot longer than people would expect.

Considering that army wide ignore "x" and ap-1 are becoming more prevalent dumping mortal wounds onto people is a pretty good use of time and its melee isnt that bad either.

Agreed, now to find lists that one can find competitively with 1 in it for them to practice against! I think the mal with a 10pt price drop woulf be in the correct spot. Honestly though i wouldnt spend 20pts for enraged reserves. I think its pts now pt even with a 10pt drop put it right on the money. An additional 20pts can be used on for example a unit of 9 warriors getting adrenal or upgrading a harpy to have venom cannons instead, in the long run would give you more bang for your buck. This is ofc just a personal opinion of mine, im sure thered be times where that 1 cp would come in very handy too.

[dc0315]

Sept 28, 2022 9:52:45 GMT dkng said:

Sept 28, 2022 8:45:09 GMT dc0315 said:

 1 of the few things that didnt get a pts hike

Yet...



Speaking about imperatives in the void, Tervi's is probably third after Zoan's and Mal's. Sadly in practice Mal is too expensive and nerfed too hard nowadays to be useful.

It's a matter of taste ofcourse but for me personally Tervi SI is third after Zoans and Neuro - this one round of psychic obliteration and MW protection is something I enjoy very much

Yeah but the neuro one depends on taking a mal in the list. The tervi one to me seems better because its beneficial to the whole army, irrispective of units or fleet. Kinda like the zoan one. The rest all depend on what you take in a list I'd think.

[No One]

Enraged reserves does very little for 'cepter.

[piersonsmuppet]

Sept 28, 2022 14:26:31 GMT purestrain said:

Male is still top tier dps, even as a support unit, put enraged reserves on him and he can dish out +3 mortal wounds from just casting support spells or direct damage spells a lot longer than people would expect.

Enraged Reserves doesn't affect Psychic Overload.

Q. If a Maleceptor model has the Enraged Reserves Adaptive
Physiologies, is it considered to have double the number of wounds
remaining for the purpose of the Psychic Overload ability?

A. No. Enraged Reserves only does this for characteristics, not any
other rules.

Couple that with the PotHM change to Character only, and you pay 25pts for almost nothing.

[purestrain]

still lets you slam into its first combat with a free 3+ mortals, and lets him stay relevant in melee for a longer duration.

[piersonsmuppet]

Sept 28, 2022 15:33:02 GMT purestrain said:

still lets you slam into its first combat with a free 3+ mortals, and lets him stay relevant in melee for a longer duration.

Trampling Charge selects an enemy unit, Enraged Reserves doesn't reduce the cost. The free Epic Deed strat was only useable before the PotHM change (probably because they forgot they removed APs from characters during playtesting and killed free fight on death).

Edit: Crusher Stampede MWs on charge strat was the one that let you select a monster that charged.

[purestrain]

Sept 28, 2022 15:51:34 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Sept 28, 2022 15:33:02 GMT purestrain said:

still lets you slam into its first combat with a free 3+ mortals, and lets him stay relevant in melee for a longer duration.

Trampling Charge selects an enemy unit, Enraged Reserves doesn't reduce the cost. The free Epic Deed strat was only useable before the PotHM change (probably because they forgot they removed APs from characters during playtesting and killed free fight on death).

Edit: Crusher Stampede MWs on charge strat was the one that let you select a monster that charged.

Feels like thats an oversight, but it still allows the maleceptor to know all the spells at least.

I feel like if there was an FAQ about trampling charge they would rule in favour of ER working for it, but you know, GW does GW stuff so it could go either way.

So many wonky things :/

[piersonsmuppet]

Sept 28, 2022 16:05:09 GMT purestrain said:

Feels like thats an oversight, but it still allows the maleceptor to know all the spells at least.

Too niche, not worth the pts imo.

Back on topic: Leviathan/Kraken Tervigon + Terms and Rupturfexes OR Leviathan 2x9 warriors with 2x HVC Harpies are the two top builds. As always, Reaper is in almost everything.

[dc0315]

Sept 28, 2022 16:07:21 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Sept 28, 2022 16:05:09 GMT purestrain said:

Feels like thats an oversight, but it still allows the maleceptor to know all the spells at least.

Too niche, not worth the pts imo.

Back on topic: Leviathan/Kraken Tervigon + Terms and Rupturfexes OR Leviathan 2x9 warriors with 2x HVC Harpies are the two top builds. As always, Reaper is in almost everything.

I have a question, why rupturefexes not acidfexes?