Acid maw

[pigboy]

Ok, I’m getting back into the game after like 6 years off. I had started building a tyranid army before I quit and I’m starting with them as my first army back. What the hell does Acid Maw do? I know the codex says it gives the bearer the acid maw keyword but I can’t for the life of me find information on what the hell it does. Where can I find that information. I have gone through the core rule book looking for it, and the new codex multiple times and it’s not anywhere that I can find. Please, help a noob out.

[Bohxim]

Off hand I can remember it Gives it "acid maw" keyword for strategem "acidic torrent"; a 1cp stray for chance of 3 MW.

[pigboy]

Apr 18, 2022 16:34:10 GMT Bohxim said:

Off hand I can remember it Gives it "acid maw" keyword for strategem "acidic torrent"; a 1cp stray for chance of 3 MW.

That is the first I’m hearing of it, I’ll check it out. You rock! I have them on some genestealers because as far as I can tell, it’s free so why not build them, but I can’t find (please do not swear) and it was killing me!

[pigboy]

“Acidic torrent” on page 65 of the codex.


1CP to roll 1 D6 for every model within engagement range with acid maw in a unit that has been selected to fight, 3D6 in the model has the “monster” keyword, for every 3+ rolled the enemy suffers 1 mortal wound, maximum of 6 mortal wounds.

[piersonsmuppet]

It's a pretty bad strat though, 0-3 MWs is not a good return for 1 CP.

[purestrain]

Yeah idk what they were thinking, nothing can even make it to 6MW because we dont have anything that has 6 ACIDMAW models or two monsters in a single unit in our entire army.

[bigbadbalou]

And the acidic torrent strat itself is kind of poorly written... I mean... For each ACID MAW INFANTRY model, roll 1 d6, or 3d6 if it has the MONSTER keyword...

I'm sure the monster keyword is to replace the infantry keyword mentioned earlier in the rule, but the rule doesn't says so. As written, it seems like for the monster to roll 3 dice, it would also need to have the ACID MAW INFANTRY keyword as it's not stated it is either one...

Kind of weird... A strat I will probably never use though, so I don't mind that much.

[piersonsmuppet]

It would be better as written if it was after making attacks, would be similar to 8E implant attack.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

I'm hoping what they meant is:
1. Select an enemy unit within engagement range of one or more acid maw units
2. For each acid maw infantry model roll 1d6
3. For each acid maw monster roll 3d6
4. For each roll of an x or higher the enemy unit takes a mortal wound (to a max of 6 in a single phase).

[bigbadbalou]

That's what I was thinking too... That would make a lot more sense, especially considering the max 6 MW specified in the strat.

But when I reread it, it was really about the number of acid maw model in 1 unit of your army that you select and which is in engagement range of an enemy unit. So it proc only in one of our unit as it is...

[Bohxim]

Max squad of 10 GS only has 2 acid maws so a risky max 2 mw? XD

[lordsia]

Apr 19, 2022 14:31:00 GMT Bohxim said:

Max squad of 10 GS only has 2 acid maws so a risky max 2 mw? XD

Pyrovores are pretty great actually, and three of them gives you three acid maws... Plus awesome flamers (18" 6D6 S4 AP-1 or 12" 3D6 S6 AP-2 D2), and a ton (15 to be precise) wounds with access to the Corrosive Viscera strat for a potential 6MW if they get hit back.

Not bad for 90pts!

[rakkagunmagus]

Might not be awful if you have acid maw on a carnifex trying to finish off a unit or high invuln Target. The strategem only effects genestealers, pyrovores and carnifex, if you pay to take acid maws. Haven't found anything else with the options.

Edit: nevermind what I said, this really isn't great, the order you do the strategem first and then fight makes it the opposite of useful for picking off a low health unit

I guess if you really wanted to shave off a wound or two before you attacked, this could be useful, otherwise it's kind of awful and possibly misprinted

[purestrain]

Apr 23, 2022 17:38:59 GMT rakkagunmagus said:

Might not be awful if you have acid maw on a carnifex trying to finish off a unit or high invuln Target. The strategem only effects genestealers, pyrovores and carnifex, if you pay to take acid maws. Haven't found anything else with the options.

Edit: nevermind what I said, this really isn't great, the order you do the strategem first and then fight makes it the opposite of useful for picking off a low health unit

I guess if you really wanted to shave off a wound or two before you attacked, this could be useful, otherwise it's kind of awful and possibly misprinted

It has to be a misprint, either that or we can actually take pyrovore in 6 man packs because thats literally the only way to reach 6MW with a single unit, nothing else in the codex can go beyond 3.

[bigbadbalou]

Apr 23, 2022 18:48:17 GMT purestrain said:

Apr 23, 2022 17:38:59 GMT rakkagunmagus said:

Might not be awful if you have acid maw on a carnifex trying to finish off a unit or high invuln Target. The strategem only effects genestealers, pyrovores and carnifex, if you pay to take acid maws. Haven't found anything else with the options.

Edit: nevermind what I said, this really isn't great, the order you do the strategem first and then fight makes it the opposite of useful for picking off a low health unit

I guess if you really wanted to shave off a wound or two before you attacked, this could be useful, otherwise it's kind of awful and possibly misprinted

It has to be a misprint, either that or we can actually take pyrovore in 6 man packs because thats literally the only way to reach 6MW with a single unit, nothing else in the codex can go beyond 3.

Even if we could take 6 pyrovores, you will still never get more than 6 MW since you would have a max 6 model in the unit. So even then, the limit of 6 MW with that strategem serves nothing as it is...