Charging shenanigans and trix

[bigbadbalou]

Mar 22, 2022 14:23:59 GMT niiai said:

I think not, or rather it works as intended. Adrenal gland gives +1 to move and +1 to strenght. As well as the adrenal gland keyword. I do not think the passanger removes those things as it only affects charge and advance. (I think our only source of advance and charge now is the psyikick power.)

Haaaaaa... I see. I though that the +1'' for the normal adrenal gland was for the charge, but it is for the move instead. That's my bad. The adrenal gland does not, indeed, add to the charge roll.

Carry on.

[niiai]

In many cases +1 move is the same as +1 to charge though. (See Tervigon Serging Vitalaty.) But it does not help when comming from reserves.

My money are stil on Shard Lure as an excelent stratagem.

[piersonsmuppet]

Mar 22, 2022 22:05:14 GMT niiai said:

In many cases +1 move is the same as +1 to charge though. (See Tervigon Serging Vitalaty.) But it does not help when comming from reserves.

My money are stil on Shard Lure as an excelent stratagem.

Shard Lure is not great on its own, a 9" charge is only 52% likely. So realistically it's making a 9" charge a 77% w/ rr, still not great to invest that much and fail 1/4 the time. Shard Lure is only good with Passenger (80% for 1 CP, or 96% 2CP) or the +1 to charge rolls (1CP 68%, or 90% 2CP).

[lordsia]

Mar 22, 2022 22:25:14 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Mar 22, 2022 22:05:14 GMT niiai said:

In many cases +1 move is the same as +1 to charge though. (See Tervigon Serging Vitalaty.) But it does not help when comming from reserves.

My money are stil on Shard Lure as an excelent stratagem.

Shard Lure is not great on its own, a 9" charge is only 52% likely. So realistically it's making a 9" charge a 77% w/ rr, still not great to invest that much and fail 1/4 the time. Shard Lure is only good with Passenger (80% for 1 CP, or 96% 2CP) or the +1 to charge rolls (1CP 68%, or 90% 2CP).

Increasing the chance of a successful charge by 25% is not bad by any means; that it applies to every unit charging the target is gravy on top.

[piersonsmuppet]

I don't really ever plan for multi-charges into a unit. Defensive strats like Transhuman make the possibility of an effective counterattack into the second unit too risky. If the first unit charging can't wipe or render slap-back ineffective, I probably shouldn't have charged anyway (unless it's to pray 1 Obj Sec model lives to deny primary).

I also don't like CP expenditure for anything below 70% probability or 2 CP just to make a charge. Shard lure won't see much use from me for helping DS units unless I'm Kraken, Behemoth and keeping the adaptive (prob won't ever do with Monster Obj Sec), or have the Passenger (So many other good relics that I prob won't be taking this much if ever).