Zoanthropes

[dc0315]

So let me get this straight, if i understood how synaptic imperatives work correctly, beginning of battle round i can choose which synaptic imperative, if i choose the zoanthrope one in battle round 1 every synapse unit gives every unit within synapsw range gains a 4++ for monsters and a 5++ for the rest? Add that to venomthropes -1 to hit and hive fleet Leviathan ability....wow.

Also, zoanthropes can get +6 to cast smite and 3 neuro can give 3 zoan units +1 dice to cast? And for each mortal wound i can heal a zoanthrope unit 1 wound up to 3, per neurothrope?

Impressive if i may say so myself.

[nameless]

Yep, it's quite excellent for dealing with T1 alpha strikes. Even if they kill the zoans, you can use a SG to use it.

[niiai]

My eyes where also on Zoanthropes.

Beeing able to sett up 5++ (or 4++ on monsters) seems like a good thing to do first turn. Note it does not affect everything. They need to be 6 within a synapse creature. And some monsters also have an invunerable save already. This includes the Zoanthropes. And hive tyrant and neuranthrope. But very good on warriors.

However, what I really enjoyed about the zoanthropes is that they have +1 to cast per zoanthrope. And their smite deals +1 damage per zoanthrope (up to 3+.) And a neuronthrope can let a model cast psykick powers with 3d6 and removing the smallest dice. This should give a unit of 3 zoanthropes on 3d6 dice you only need to roll 8 to get +3 and hit 11 allowing you to deal 1d6+3 mortal wounds. That sounds very strong.

That is a big sett up but lets scale it down: 3 zoanthropes is 150 points for +3 to the smite to deal 1d3+3 smite damge. Sounds good. How the hell did they become T5?

[dc0315]

Mar 15, 2022 22:07:36 GMT nameless said:

Yep, it's quite excellent for dealing with T1 alpha strikes. Even if they kill the zoans, you can use a SG to use it.

It actually happens beginning of battle round, so even if you dont start 1st, you can still do it before the opponent begins right?

[nameless]

Yep, battle round. But sometimes you might not want to use it T1 if you're set up really well.

[dc0315]

Mar 15, 2022 22:17:18 GMT niiai said:

My eyes where also on Zoanthropes.

Beeing able to sett up 5++ (or 4++ on monsters) seems like a good thing to do first turn. Note it does not affect everything. They need to be 6 within a synapse creature. And some monsters also have an invunerable save already. This includes the Zoanthropes. And hive tyrant and neuranthrope. But very good on warriors.

However, what I really enjoyed about the zoanthropes is that they have +1 to cast per zoanthrope. And their smite deals +1 damage per zoanthrope (up to 3+.) And a neuronthrope can let a model cast psykick powers with 3d6 and removing the smallest dice. This should give a unit of 3 zoanthropes on 3d6 dice you only need to roll 8 to get +3 and hit 11 allowing you to deal 1d6+3 mortal wounds. That sounds very strong.

That is a big sett up but lets scale it down: 3 zoanthropes is 150 points for +3 to the smite to deal 1d3+3 smite damge. Sounds good. How the hell did they become T5?

i was already playing 5 zoans x3 units with 2 neurothropes so this is all gains for me add fleshborer gants, a harpy or 2 and 2 exocrines and im in love.

[dc0315]

Correct me if im wrong but are neurothropes the only unit in a 9th codex with a 3++?

[nameless]

Draigo from the GK has one.

[niiai]

But is Draigo a big brain in a body made of floating gass? I think not. The earth is not worthy enough to be touched by a zoanthropes feet. (That is why they do not have any.)

[dc0315]

Mar 15, 2022 22:18:59 GMT nameless said:

Yep, battle round. But sometimes you might not want to use it T1 if you're set up really well.

, true great to have though!

[niiai]

The Synaptic Legacy stratagem is worth noting if they kill your zoanthropes and you are banking on that 5++.

[N.I.B.]

Mar 15, 2022 22:17:18 GMT niiai said:

My eyes where also on Zoanthropes.
How the hell did they become T5?

Maybe because their 3++ was nerfed to 4++.

[niiai]

They are helium balloons with a big brain.

[dc0315]

Mar 16, 2022 7:39:14 GMT N.I.B. said:

Mar 15, 2022 22:17:18 GMT niiai said:

My eyes where also on Zoanthropes.
How the hell did they become T5?

Maybe because their 3++ was nerfed to 4++.

true but aside from the t5 upgrade they also got an extra wound too.

[yoritomo]

I’d like to point out that zoanthropes are not synapse units. While they do have synapse they do not have they synapse key word.

This means that they are not part of the synaptic link as that uses the synapse keyword to determine if synaptic abilities are passed on. Also, synaptic imperatives use the synapse key word as well, so zoanthropes can pass their synaptic imperative onto other synapse creatures units around your zoanthropes receive no benefit.