25PL for warhammer crusade series

[joekin]

So, I’m coming back to the hobby and have been out for a long time. I don’t have many games with 25PL.

List idea 1:

Flying hive tyrant with 2x twin linked devourers and all the bells and whistles for 11PL

20xTermagants with devourers for 6PL

3x Hive guard impaler cannon for 6PL

1x biovore for 2PL

List idea 2:

cut the hive guard for more bodies/dakka

Flying hive tyrant with 2x twin linked devourers and all the bells and whistles for 11PL

20xTermagants with devourers for 6PL

20xTermagants with devourers for 6PL

1x biovore for 2PL

Other thoughts:

I figured a flying hive tyrant is ridiculous at lower power levels and very strong/ hard to deal with.

I don’t know if it’s better to go more dakka gaunts and forget the hive guard. I also don’t have any idea how I will deal with any armor, so maybe the hive guard are needed for this?

What would recommendations be for 25PL?

Should I cut the flying hive tyrant and try to use something else as an HQ?

I am getting back into the hobby and need some help/ advice on how to kit things out.

[piersonsmuppet]

First list, but two changes. Flyrant will be better as hybrid or pure melee, dakkarant is prob the weakest option this edition. For 2PL, a unit of 2x pyrovore will do a ton more than 1x Biovore.

[joekin]

So, is a flying hive tyrant bad now? Or just a shooty version of it? Before when I played it was difficult to melee with a flying hive tyrant so I guess that’s why it has always been shooty.

Do I need to change my warlord to something else? I could just play for the memes I guess and go in on an old one eye or swarmy, but the swarmy is expensive at low PL.

How would you kit out a hive tyrant at 25Power level? I’m guessing flying is still a good thing.

It’s tough to build much at 25PL you don’t get much it’s around 500-600 points.

[piersonsmuppet]

Flying Tyrants are great at 1000 pts, but the loss of fallback & shoot for flyers and objective play of 9th makes a dakkarant the weakest build currently (imo). The battlefield sizes were also decreased this edition, so it is easier to get into melee as well. I would suggest going 2xDev/MRC and give it the Adaptive Physiology (instead of WLT) Murderous Size to make the MRC S7 AP4 3d+1D, though I think there is a strong case for going MBS with the ignore ++ relic.

PL is usually best built around units who have upgrades. Carnifex/Warriors are fairly decent when playing PL (especially smaller games) because you can give them a 50%pt hike in war gear w/o increasing the PL.