S8 bonesword?

[piersonsmuppet]

Jan 5, 2022 14:15:29 GMT Bohxim said:

Doesn't he already give himself the +1 to hit? Wouldn't stack further with the warrior link

Yes he does, but OOE needs a +2 to-hit to ignore the -1 from CC. Though I’m now remembering Alpha Leader affects him too, so no need for link… thanks!

[purestrain]

Jan 5, 2022 13:18:18 GMT niiai said:

The Dima is so fragile when going second though. It can't hide, at least on the tables in my aria. And the T7 is just such a kick in the shin. T8 is way better. The hive tyrant you can theoretically hide.

Old on eye has look out sir. Witch should keep him alive to see some action. He is probably better as a counter charge unit that moves up with other things. And not your Swarmlord missile amunition.

The hauruspex just seems so sloooow. T8 is nice though. Beeing elite though is a++.

Don't forget that OOE has Superior version of Lookout sir when another carnifex is around him. cant be shot at all

[Bohxim]

Jan 5, 2022 14:27:00 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Jan 5, 2022 14:15:29 GMT Bohxim said:

Doesn't he already give himself the +1 to hit? Wouldn't stack further with the warrior link

Yes he does, but OOE needs a +2 to-hit to ignore the -1 from CC. Though I’m now remembering Alpha Leader affects him too, so no need for link… thanks!

Also remember he gets an additional +1 to hit when he charges so he already gets +2 to mitigate crushing claws on a charge. Tho I suppose you could leave link on him on the off chance he gets charged or stuck in combat

[kazetanade]

Jan 5, 2022 12:11:57 GMT mrdodo said:

Jan 4, 2022 17:29:37 GMT piersonsmuppet said:

Behemoth CS can boost a SoT Tyrant to 7-11A w/ +1 to-hit/wound. Better yet, just run OOE in Levi CS. S14 and highest potential output in faction except for Hierophant/Harridan.

 I am pretty sure the Dima has a way greater potential then OOE. Both hit and wound almost everything on 2's but OOE will get 30 wounds potential and Dima 36. Let alone murderous size on the dima and the strategem which would get the dima to 48 potential which both cant be used on OOE.   So its not even close. 

Also the hyrodules have a greater potential.  Oh and trygon/trygon prime. Even silly enough the Haruspex has more potential (108 damage which will never happen but is really funny to think about and by far the highest potential)   

The 5 attacks base and 3 dmg flat on OOE just are not enough to go high enough even with the extra attacks.

Dima is only superior against single model tank units that have -1D. Or superheavy with 24W++. OOE is superior against every other profile, I think. But the Dima bypasses terrain issues, so it gets a specific niche.

OOEs unique explode stack makes him frightening in the CS context. 5A turns into like 9. +d3 turns it into something like 13.