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Post by zimko on Dec 21, 2021 15:58:58 GMT
I'm all for it. Threat overload > better offense from a single unit. The relic is -1 to enemy attacks though, not -1 to wound. I was referring to Biomorphic Carapace. Enemy attacks have -1 to their wound rolls. An attack includes ranged and melee. I simply refer to that relic as the '-1 to wound relic'.
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Post by zimko on Dec 21, 2021 16:04:13 GMT
Thicc Stampede Army of Renown - Crusher Stampede Patrol: Leviathan HQ - Hive Tyrant: Wings, 2x Scything Talons, AGlands, TSacs, Malicious Direction, Murderous Size, Biomorphic Carapace, POWERS: Onslaught, Psychic Scream - 230 - Neurothrope: Catalyst, WARLORD: Alpha Leader-Beast: Swarm Leader, Strategic Adaptation RELIC: Neural Lobe - 95 Troops - 3x Warriors: Bioweapon Bond, Adrenal Glands, 1x LW/BS - 72 Elites - 6x Hive Guard: - 270 Heavy Support - Barbed Hierodule: - 275 - Barbed Hierodule: - 275 Patrol: Leviathan HQ - Swarmlord: Synaptic Barrier, Aggressive Surge - 240 Troops - 3x Warriors: Bioweapon Bond, Adrenal Glands, 1x LW/BS - 72 Heavy Support - Scythed Hierodule: - 235 - Scythed Hierodule: - 235 1999 pts, 9 CP Here's the updated Thicc Stampede list. I will be taking this against Thicc City Drukhari soon but I may play against myself again before then. I'll post another battle report this week, tho I'll probably take fewer pictures. . I'll try to take a 'board state' picture after each phase and see how that goes. Now that the LVO mission pack is out, we're also going to switch to player placed terrain to practice for that event. We may also just play 2 turns and talk out the rest of the game to get more practice in at placing terrain and deployment.
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Post by zimko on Dec 21, 2021 18:10:33 GMT
It seems John Lennon is using a similar list to my first one, but instead of 2 scythed Hierodules, he's taking a trygon prime and Dima. The reason for the Dima makes sense, you need something that can hop over terrain and units. That's why I added the Flyrant. The Trygon Prime tho is interesting... he can allow the barbed hierodules to fallback, shoot AND charge. And from my experience... a hierodule's charge is devestating with the new 6 mortal stratagem. But also being able shoot at what you want without penalty is huge for the Barbed Hierodules. I think I'll try it.
Here's his list:
Leviathan Battalion
Crusher Stampede Army of Renown
Neurothrope (Warlord, Void Crown, Catalyst, Psychic Scream, Swarm Leader, Strategic Adaptation) 95
The Swarmlord (Synaptic Barrier, Aggressive Surge) 240
Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons. Synaptic Link) 66
Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons. Synaptic Link) 66
Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons, Lash Whip Bonesword, Adrenal Glands) 63
Hive Guard (Impaler Cannons) 270
Maleceptor (Synaptic Link, Onslaught) 185
Dimachaeron 255
Barbed Hierodule 275
Barbed Hierodule 275
Trygon Prime (Synaptic Link, Monstrous Size, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacks) 205
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Post by piersonsmuppet on Dec 22, 2021 0:33:20 GMT
Is there a relic on the Trygon Prime? I think the -1 to wound might be worth 1CP on it.
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Post by zimko on Dec 22, 2021 0:36:42 GMT
Is there a relic on the Trygon Prime? I think the -1 to wound might be worth 1CP on it. He doesn't put one on it. I think the play is to keep the CP, especially since this list doesn't have Neural Lobe. And putting Lobe on the Trygon is risky since he may die early and not generate any CP.
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Post by kazetanade on Dec 22, 2021 6:32:31 GMT
Definitely keeping cp for the play.
The Prime is interesting, as I'd want to get one in for the Barbed or HG in general. I'm just not sure how I feel about it on the table.
Where'd you get lennons list?
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Post by N.I.B. on Dec 22, 2021 8:13:19 GMT
I'm all for it. Threat overload > better offense from a single unit. The relic is -1 to enemy attacks though, not -1 to wound. I was referring to Biomorphic Carapace. Enemy attacks have -1 to their wound rolls. An attack includes ranged and melee. I simply refer to that relic as the '-1 to wound relic'. My bad, thought it was -1 to be hit by attacks. I've edited my own army list. Thicc City Drukhari - what is that? I've seen it mentioned.
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Post by No One on Dec 22, 2021 8:20:49 GMT
Pile of coven (generally talos and cronos, with some grots) with -1 D trait.
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Post by zimko on Dec 22, 2021 14:21:08 GMT
Definitely keeping cp for the play. The Prime is interesting, as I'd want to get one in for the Barbed or HG in general. I'm just not sure how I feel about it on the table. Where'd you get lennons list? He played vs Siegler piloting Thicc City on the Art of War website. I believe the game is behind a paywall.
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Post by N.I.B. on Dec 22, 2021 14:34:18 GMT
Why the nickname Thicc City? Big models?
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Post by zimko on Dec 22, 2021 17:44:57 GMT
Why the nickname Thicc City? Big models? Yeah the list is built around super durable monsters (Talos and Cronos) with some durable grotesques and wracks all having -1 damage and 5+ to ignore wounds. So that explains the 'Thicc' part. Why 'City'? I don't know. Maybe it just sounded good and stuck. Either way, that's what some people called the list and that's how it's referred to now in certain competitive circles. It's the new way to play drukhari competitively since the nerfs to their previously standard list of raiders/incubi/wyches spam.
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Post by kazetanade on Dec 22, 2021 19:28:07 GMT
Because the models are thick as bricks to get through.
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Post by Hive Bahamut on Dec 23, 2021 4:59:51 GMT
Coming from the dark city I would imagine.
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Post by N.I.B. on Dec 23, 2021 21:29:42 GMT
It seems John Lennon is using a similar list to my first one, but instead of 2 scythed Hierodules, he's taking a trygon prime and Dima. The reason for the Dima makes sense, you need something that can hop over terrain and units. That's why I added the Flyrant. The Trygon Prime tho is interesting... he can allow the barbed hierodules to fallback, shoot AND charge. And from my experience... a hierodule's charge is devestating with the new 6 mortal stratagem. But also being able shoot at what you want without penalty is huge for the Barbed Hierodules. I think I'll try it. Here's his list: Leviathan Battalion Crusher Stampede Army of Renown Neurothrope (Warlord, Void Crown, Catalyst, Psychic Scream, Swarm Leader, Strategic Adaptation) 95 The Swarmlord (Synaptic Barrier, Aggressive Surge) 240 Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons. Synaptic Link) 66 Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons. Synaptic Link) 66 Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons, Lash Whip Bonesword, Adrenal Glands) 63 Hive Guard (Impaler Cannons) 270 Maleceptor (Synaptic Link, Onslaught) 185 Dimachaeron 255 Barbed Hierodule 275 Barbed Hierodule 275 Trygon Prime (Synaptic Link, Monstrous Size, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacks) 205 About the Trygon, I guess Lennon is forced to deploy it on the table if he wants to use the Feed link, since it can't be used if the model is in reserve at the start of the turn. Which feels like a huge risk going second, at least my area has really low terrain, I'm glad if I can hide 6 Hive Guards. Regardless, if you start it on the table I suspect you'd have more utility from a Flyrant at the same cost.
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Post by zimko on Dec 23, 2021 23:44:24 GMT
It seems John Lennon is using a similar list to my first one, but instead of 2 scythed Hierodules, he's taking a trygon prime and Dima. The reason for the Dima makes sense, you need something that can hop over terrain and units. That's why I added the Flyrant. The Trygon Prime tho is interesting... he can allow the barbed hierodules to fallback, shoot AND charge. And from my experience... a hierodule's charge is devestating with the new 6 mortal stratagem. But also being able shoot at what you want without penalty is huge for the Barbed Hierodules. I think I'll try it. Here's his list: Leviathan Battalion Crusher Stampede Army of Renown Neurothrope (Warlord, Void Crown, Catalyst, Psychic Scream, Swarm Leader, Strategic Adaptation) 95 The Swarmlord (Synaptic Barrier, Aggressive Surge) 240 Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons. Synaptic Link) 66 Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons. Synaptic Link) 66 Tyranid Warriors (Scything Talons, Lash Whip Bonesword, Adrenal Glands) 63 Hive Guard (Impaler Cannons) 270 Maleceptor (Synaptic Link, Onslaught) 185 Dimachaeron 255 Barbed Hierodule 275 Barbed Hierodule 275 Trygon Prime (Synaptic Link, Monstrous Size, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacks) 205 About the Trygon, I guess Lennon is forced to deploy it on the table if he wants to use the Feed link, since it can't be used if the model is in reserve at the start of the turn. Which feels like a huge risk going second, at least my area has really low terrain, I'm glad if I can hide 6 Hive Guards. Regardless, if you start it on the table I suspect you'd have more utility from a Flyrant at the same cost. Well the nice thing about a tyrgon is that, despite being super tall, it's still only 12 wounds so it benefits from obscuring. However, I think I'll still be spending the 1 CP to give it the -1 to wound relic.
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