Codex rumors

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Dec 11, 2021 13:46:32 GMT No One said:

Explosives is command->end of movement, so doesn't sacrifice shooting. And I think she's a tad overcosted, no way is she 40 pts overcosted.

The main downside for me on the explosives is that you have to place it close to the model. I was hoping to o be able to place it anywhere on the battlefield to help create situations for crossfire.

I'm not happy that the model lacks crossfire. It's largely a shooting model and now does not interact with our new cool shooting rules.

Looking at it, I think the saboteur is good if you're playing against lots of vehicles. If not, the model will not do much for 80 points.

I forgot to mention, the model is an elite which is another knock against it (unless some of our other elites are moving to other slots).

[No One]

hivefleetkerrigan said:

I'm not happy that the model lacks crossfire. It's largely a shooting model and now does not interact with our new cool shooting rules.

Agreed.

Looking at it, I think the saboteur is good if you're playing against lots of vehicles. If not, the model will not do much for 80 points.

It's still 4 shots at BS2+ with good S and AP. Bad for 80 pts, and I don't think it's anything amazing against the desired targets to make up for those shortcomings, but not garbage when you consider clandestine might offer some utility. I'd say similar boat to the keler, undercosted at 60, OK but probably not good at 80 (but more meta dependant).

I forgot to mention, the model is an elite which is another knock against it (unless some of our other elites are moving to other slots).

I mean, bat has 6 elite slots. If our stuff's good enough that this becomes a problem I'm happy.

[swarm492]

Unless I'm mistaken it looks like the patriarch also picked up a 4++

[purestrain]

Dec 11, 2021 16:42:22 GMT swarm492 said:

Unless I'm mistaken it looks like the patriarch also picked up a 4++

Indeed, also flat 2 damage on his claws and 7 wounds.

Neos have crazy options now, 20 guys? bring 4 seismic cannons and fire short or long wave at 24"! 4 web guns d3 shots each beat their strength deal a mortal wound If stubbers are dirt cheap thats 12 str 4 shots that if crossfired are hitting on 3s and wounding on 3s or just bring 4 mining lasers and 4 webbers and melt face!

Banner to get d6 guys back, 1cp to get d6 guys back. hue hue hue

Still melt to a stiff breeze

[bolk]

From GSC Facebook post:

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Mining lasers look like they'll still be swingy. I wasn't sure if they were going to get 3+D3 or not. Seismic look really good now (especially if a single shot hits, then crossfire will activate).

Cast 2 for patriarch and magus are amazing.

[bolk]

Dec 12, 2021 16:15:59 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Mining lasers look like they'll still be swingy. I wasn't sure if they were going to get 3+D3 or not. Seismic look really good now (especially if a single shot hits, then crossfire will activate).

Cast 2 for patriarch and magus are amazing.

Also like that Patriarch now has D2 claws and a 4++, Primus is T4 and Cult boneswords are S+1 and D2.

[kurtangle2]

Dec 12, 2021 16:15:59 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Mining lasers look like they'll still be swingy. I wasn't sure if they were going to get 3+D3 or not. Seismic look really good now (especially if a single shot hits, then crossfire will activate).

Cast 2 for patriarch and magus are amazing.

Mining Lasers are awful compared to the new Seismic now

[purestrain]

20 man shotgun squads anyone?

[kurtangle2]

Dec 12, 2021 17:20:55 GMT purestrain said:

20 man shotgun squads anyone?

I'd go 16 shotguns 4 flamers to spread +1s to Hit EVERYWHERE

[purestrain]

Dec 12, 2021 17:23:13 GMT kurtangle2 said:

Dec 12, 2021 17:20:55 GMT purestrain said:

20 man shotgun squads anyone?

I'd go 16 shotguns 4 flamers to spread +1s to Hit EVERYWHERE

No no no my friend, you use another squad with 4 seismic cannons and flamers to spread the tokens, you use the shotguns en-masse coupled with the +1 hit +1 wound to smash squads with 42nd century buckshot.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Dec 12, 2021 16:35:26 GMT kurtangle2 said:

Dec 12, 2021 16:15:59 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Mining lasers look like they'll still be swingy. I wasn't sure if they were going to get 3+D3 or not. Seismic look really good now (especially if a single shot hits, then crossfire will activate).

Cast 2 for patriarch and magus are amazing.

Mining Lasers are awful compared to the new Seismic now

I think they're better against big targets but seismic are better in general

[beetlejuice]

Patty going to S5 is sad. Wounding relevant stuff on 4’s now. Rerolls help but 3’s rerolling into T5 was so much better. Guess the other buffs help though.

[zimko]

So ambush markers aren't changing much at all? That's surprising but welcome.

[purestrain]

Dec 13, 2021 2:06:44 GMT zimko said:

So ambush markers aren't changing much at all? That's surprising but welcome.

It states in the Books rules that this is only for this supplement, and that you use the system within Codex:GSC, so its changing, they just don't want to show us how yet.