Viable HARPY BUILD?!?!

[jvh792]

Lots of double dima lists floating around out there, and with good reason. What if you could make you significantly more survivable and a very neat piece of combat tech and some mortal wounds?

I think harpies could have a place in a double Dima list.  Dima's are so powerful because of their ability to run so far turn 1 and control the middle of the board. Pinning an opponent in their deployment zone with a turn 1 Dima charge is incredibly powerful. But it always sucks to have your opponent just fall back and open fire with everything they've got at it. BUUUUT...

If you have a harpy, then you a third unit (or second if you fail onslaught) that can turn 1 charge; except this one doesn't need a swarmlord or any CP investment to move that far. 30" movement is fast enough to turn 1 "boop" an opponent's ranged support unit, allowing you "turn off" that unit's shooting for a turn. They're not nearly as tough as a Dima, but who would be wasting shots on a harpy when there's 2 Dima's in your grill... And if they do, then great! Because Harpies are still 12 wounds. That's actually pretty good.

I've just gotten back into warhammer after a pretty long hiatus from 8th (because 8th was soooo boring), and I think a harpy could be an extremely valuable support piece for these turn 1 charge lists that could perform even better if the big threat were still on the table turn 2. I'd love to hear if people have experimented with this, or why this is a garbage-trash idea.

[afewveiws]

I've mulled over this idea before but with hivecrones.

I like the idea in Theory but have no models to try it with and the numbers look questionable.
The major up on the crones is that you can shoot all thier guns in combat now so it makes them look alot better for that reason alone.

If you wanted to be cheeky you could run a mostly flyer list and first turn charge with 6+ units/MC.

Edit: didnt realize you only got 2 flyers per detatchment... guess you would need 2 detatchments and thats alittle sad, but that would be 4 turn 1 charges, plus swarmy sling, plus kraken strat... so maybe up to 6 turn 1 charges but thats still not bad.

[niiai]

I played around with hive cronies in leviathan builds. Mostly for fun.

Impressions where that they where not impressive. They are far to easy to kill. (Malanthrooe might help.) Hiw ever they are very fast. First turn charges are very possible. Combine with Swarmlord for more first turn charges. In leviathan also it could help trigger the stratagem. (Mostly a 8th edition thing when you charged with Genestealers.)

[purestrain]

Die to a swift breeze, even with dermic, need better stats

[afewveiws]

I think it would play well against a gunline style army but will crumble to anything that would consider punching them back.

With the way the meta seems to be right now, every viable enemy army will be able to punch them back. As a result they probably arent worth buying. That being said, if you already have 4 or more, give it a try and report back.