Drukhari?

[bestaltan]

Drukhari seem like they are an extremely hard counter to Bugs at the moment, with their cheap, fast, and lethal units, and a secondary tailor-made to max out against Bugs. Do we have any good counters to them?

[kazetanade]

Yes. Its called kill them with extreme prejudice.

DE is a bad match up for pure Monster Mash, but the volume of poison isn't going to be something that kills our MC on the spot. HG are still the biggest nightmare in the world cuz it pops Raiders, pops Hellions, pops Reivers, and pops venoms - DE can't get across safely with HG on the table, and that cuts their safety and mobility down immensely.

Run and Charge is a valid threat tho esp from Wych Cult of Strife. Respect their space, do not give them easy infantry to touch-wrap cuz u can't fall back.

[wormlord666]

Apr 15, 2021 9:24:39 GMT bestaltan said:

Drukhari seem like they are an extremely hard counter to Bugs at the moment, with their cheap, fast, and lethal units, and a secondary tailor-made to max out against Bugs. Do we have any good counters to them?

They are tough no doubt. But like noted above, HG and Exocrine are good at opening up the transports. Devilgaunts, and even hormagaunts will kill the elves on the ground. I am tecking my flyrant with double devs now with Drukhari and pox walkers in mind. The big risk is that they take the board early and before you get it back you'll be behind in points.

[hiveoverall]

Apr 15, 2021 12:12:29 GMT wormlord666 said:

Apr 15, 2021 9:24:39 GMT bestaltan said:

Drukhari seem like they are an extremely hard counter to Bugs at the moment, with their cheap, fast, and lethal units, and a secondary tailor-made to max out against Bugs. Do we have any good counters to them?

They are tough no doubt. But like noted above, HG and Exocrine are good at opening up the transports. Devilgaunts, and even hormagaunts will kill the elves on the ground. I am tecking my flyrant with double devs now with Drukhari and pox walkers in mind. The big risk is that they take the board early and before you get it back you'll be behind in points.

They will just charge and tie up your extremely expensive flyrant, to prevent it from shooting, I don't think that will end up well against a good druk player. Perhaps with walls of gaunts and the relic giving it 26 range, you can stay clear... But they do have a strat to ignore models when moving, like harlequins. And they have reaver jet bikes.

I dunno, in a swarmy build that doesn't give anty good landing spot to the druk units, it may work indeed !

[kazetanade]

Flyrants now shoot into combat, and because weapons are not Heavy, no penalties. If they tag a Dakkaflyrant with DE infantry, they're in for a really rough time since they don't get much of a save against that 24 shots of Eldar hate.

Swarming builds are your WORST option because wyches tag you and you can't break free.

[zimko]

Devgants are also highly effective against DE. Even Ravagers, Raiders and Venoms die to Devgants. You can split fire the unit and kill multiple units of wyches/wracks/venoms on arrival.

Honestly, my DE friend has a very hard time against my tyranids. He's a veteran DE player and the new DE are so fragile that I can match him toe to toe on kills. Hive Guard don't perform that well because as said, he can bad touch the Hive Guard better than most armies. But everything else does great. This is a case where his short ranged high damage weapons are a disadvantage because you can force him to overextend if he wants to shoot your big dudes.

[bestaltan]

Interesting points. I played against them for the first time last night and got absolutely steamrolled, so I was wondering if others were having that problem with them.