Crouchling question

[Hive Bahamut]

Is this the only removable relic in the game? The other day we were going over the options and it never occured to me that dying you lose it. I mean yes it is gone, but there aren't any other relics that do that is there?

[hivefleetkerrigan]

You do have one shot relics or relics that can be countered, but the crouchling I the only one I can think of that is outright removable.

[Gunnerside]

The way I see it, is that it is removable in the same way that any other model that carries a relic can be eliminated. So not really unique in that aspect. The difference is that it is carried by a non-character model which is treated as being in the same unit as the Patriarch.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Jan 29, 2021 12:08:03 GMT Gunnerside said:

The way I see it, is that it is removable in the same way that any other model that carries a relic can be eliminated. So not really unique in that aspect. The difference is that it is carried by a non-character model which is treated as being in the same unit as the Patriarch.

The counter point to this is that you're investing extra points for something you're going to remove first from the unit. I'd much rather lose a familiar than my magus or patriarch any day of the week.

[Gunnerside]

Jan 29, 2021 13:15:04 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Jan 29, 2021 12:08:03 GMT Gunnerside said:

The way I see it, is that it is removable in the same way that any other model that carries a relic can be eliminated. So not really unique in that aspect. The difference is that it is carried by a non-character model which is treated as being in the same unit as the Patriarch.

The counter point to this is that you're investing extra points for something you're going to remove first from the unit. I'd much rather lose a familiar than my magus or patriarch any day of the week.

Not arguing against that, I’m just saying that the gameplay mechanism behind the Crouchling isn’t unique.

[kazetanade]

It is the only relic which you can choose to destroy instead of your character, yes - so it kind of works like Eldar's Phoenix Gem in that it keeps you barely alive, but you get other benefits first.

Or, you can think of it more like one of those Sgt Relics that SM and DG get, except much more powerful.