9th Edition Leviathan & Kronos Tyranids 2000 (update)

[sleep]

I like it and am thinking about the same, but I would use hormagaunts instead of termagants for more movement with swarmlord. Maybe the warriors with venom cannons are going to waste with BS4. The small group of warriors could also be better with 2x scything talons as you can't shoot if you get Hive Commandered.

[kwisatzhaderach]

Forgive me for the slight necro, but I was revisiting some of my old lists and I realized that this one went down in points by quite a bit. Hive guard, Tyrants with wings, and warriors all dropped in points. So I think have something like 100 points to play with?

Also some of the rough secondaries, like Bring It Down and Abhor the Witch, now only give up 10 and 12 points, respectively - and this is only if they are maxed out. This was the biggest issue with this list and now it's not so big a deal.


Note that I don't have any FW models and so I think I want to revise this list.
What I do want to do with the points discount is throw in a couple Lictors. That makes for a super easy Scramblers.
I think I'll also upgrade another Tyrant to have wings as well.

So ultimately the list will be just about the same but with another Winged Tyrant, 2 Lictors, and Hormagaunts instead of Termagants.

[No One]

Could you chuck up your most up to date list?

[kwisatzhaderach]

Feb 28, 2021 4:55:49 GMT No One said:

Could you chuck up your most up to date list?

Hi No One,

After doing some theorycrafting, here's what I've come up with. 
The only thing I've been going back and forth on are the adaptive physiologies. I really like having Invul saves on all my monsters, but I must admit, a Hive Tyrant with scything talons is really not that scary without Monstrous Size. An obvious exclusion of the list is is no adaptive physiology for the warriors. 
I will note that in my experience the -1 damage strat and the 6+++ (or Catalyst) does far more for their survivability than the AP. 

Other than that, the list feels seems quite solid. 

For the Hive Tyrants, I have one mortal wound factory, 1 "utility" caster (Paroxysm, Onslaught) and then a sort of redundancy/backup for Catalyst as well as debuff. They're so fast that I don't anticipate too many issues but I like to have that flexibility in my Tyrants. We'll see how I feel after a few games. 

On Secondaries: 

Scramblers is an obvious one. With two lictors, you're basically guaranteed it. The list also has enough firepower and threat projection that screens should be easily removed. 
Engage on All Fronts is another solid go-to since the list is so mobile. Hormagaunts, the rippers, lictors, and Tyrants can make it consistent. 

The third secondary is a flex slot as far as I'm concerned. You could go with a mission secondary or one of the other book ones depending on what the enemy army is doing. 



+++ Tyranids 9th 2000 Tyranid Attack (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [102 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] +++

++ Battalion Detachment -3CP (Tyranids) [61 PL, 9CP, 1,186pts] ++

Hive Fleet: Leviathan

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 220pts]: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Scything Talons, Power: Catalyst, Power: Psychic Scream, Resonance Barb, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 220pts]: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Scything Talons, Power: Onslaught, Power: Paroxysm, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 220pts]: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Scything Talons, Power: Catalyst, Power: The Horror, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

+ Troops +

Hormagaunts [3 PL, 60pts]
. 10x Hormagaunt: 10x Scything Talons

Hormagaunts [3 PL, 60pts]
. 10x Hormagaunt: 10x Scything Talons

Tyranid Warriors [12 PL, 261pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon

Tyranid Warriors [4 PL, 54pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons

Tyranid Warriors [4 PL, 54pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: 2x Scything Talons

+ Elites +

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [41 PL, -1CP, 814pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost

Hive Fleet: Kronos

+ Stratagems +

Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Neurothrope [5 PL, 95pts]: Power: Smite, Power: Symbiostorm, Warlord

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 36pts]
. 3x Ripper Swarm: 3x Claws and Teeth

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [12 PL, 270pts]
. 6x Hive Guard (Impaler): 6x Impaler Cannon

Lictor [2 PL, 37pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

Exocrine [9 PL, 170pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

[garg]

It looks pretty good, you should probably swap out the bone swords on the three warrior units for adrenal glands.

[kwisatzhaderach]

Mar 1, 2021 16:53:39 GMT garg said:

It looks pretty good, you should probably swap out the bone swords on the three warrior units for adrenal glands.

Thanks Garg. That's actually a great suggestion. My thinking was that it might be nice to have a slight CC punch, but in the game I played yesterday, the glands would have been so much more useful.