Nid flyers?

[niiai]

Currently the tyranid 'flyers' do not have any of the flying keywords. And they are under 18 wounds. But they have a tremendus movement range, 30 if I remember correctly.

Could they suddenly become good in 9th edition? Asuming you can hide behind a building that blocks LOS during deployment you should have very good board pressence with them.

Thoughts?

[gigasnail]

T6 4+ save. Not a good look.

[acehilator]

They die to a stiff breeze and the damage potential is lacklustre. Tagging several vehicles with the big base is also not really effective, unless against IG Basilisk parking lot or whatever. Overall no bueno, unless they end up winning the points change lottery.

[gigasnail]

Yeah if their fragility was reflected by a cheap as chips points cost, say 75 points loaded, they'd be a lot better.

[yoritomo]

Yeah, but if the terrain allows you to limit the return fire they receive then their durability becomes less of an issue.

It’s really going to come down to how much terrain people decide to play with. Unfortunately, counting on the battlefield to create a successful environment for your unit is not good list building. I think we need to see how the meta shapes up before we can get a proper answer if Tyranid flyers are worth it. Given what we know now I’m leaning towards no at the moment.

[gigasnail]

With the amount of firepower around, a -1 to hit is not going to save them. They're too big to hide and not be shot.

[infornography]

If they get cheap enough they will be good, I would like to think that they would be an asset, but I suspect that they won't be. GW needs to either make them more durable or a LOT cheaper and I don't think either is likely.

[niiai]

Are they really that bad?

[Kitane]

T6 4+ save is a light vehicle profile, any autocannon or worse will make mincemeat out of it.

The Harpy had a ok set of tools in the 8th. Moving and falling back while bombing, shooting, charging, fighting
It was mediocre in every individual aspect but when all were combined, it could almost pull its weight. Almost.

The 9th edition will be an actual nerf for Harpy used in this role, losing the option to shoot after falling back.

I never used Crone in the 8th. Gone were the days of its raging Vector Strike.

[acehilator]

Tied for worst models we have with the Haruspex I'd say. Toxicrene looks smashing in comparison (especially in 9E).

[N.I.B.]

Jul 11, 2020 20:08:29 GMT niiai said:

Are they really that bad?

Oh yes.

[gigasnail]

At least the crone doesnt care about falling back? It just stays in combat, flails around and pukes on stuff. Maybe throw them at light infantry?

Doesnt sound awful I guess, just real fragile. Let's see what they cost.

Harpy would be real nice if it was, say, demon prince sized and easily hidden.

[purestrain]

Idk, against a blob you get 12 shots with the dual STC at bs3+, thats not too bad, but like ive said, points wont do much to its capability, they need t7/3+

[gigasnail]

That's if the meta doesn't shift away from units of 10+. I dunno I buy into this, but we'll see.

[xsquidz]

I would be okay if it stayed T6, 4+ armour but it should have 14 or 16 wounds and keep its points the same or lower. I think all nid things should be higher wounds, especially since we have no invulnerables. Would be cool if our stuff was just bulkier, Trygon as well should be 14 or 16 wounds IMO.