Strategic Reserves and Pheromone Trail

[turner430]

So you can now place any unit in reserves by paying cp.
My question is can a lictor now use pheromone trail to bring them in insteas of having to use board edges?

[garg]

I would say it looks like it, i suspect this will be included in the faq/errata that they said they'd release with 9th.

[gloomfang]

It is still pretty limited as it is only 1 unit and it has to be infantry. It does look like you can pop out the lictor and the other unit the same turn though. Might make for an interesting distraction carnifex.

[purestrain]

turn 2 lictor DS into an open part of their zone, use outflank on the stealers you have and 1cp them to him instead. Charge a unit with both (thats clearly within 9) and if you make it just overrun away out of their zone so you dont get auto charged and the lictor can stay to get you a secondary for being in three zones or some (please do not swear).

I like this stuff

[purestrain]

Also, if there is a cp ability to put guys in reserve, is there going to be a generic 2(?) cp ability to do it to a unit of your choice from the field? if so what errata would take place on the gsc rtts?

[gloomfang]

Jun 26, 2020 13:45:10 GMT purestrain said:

Also, if there is a cp ability to put guys in reserve, is there going to be a generic 2(?) cp ability to do it to a unit of your choice from the field? if so what errata would take place on the gsc rtts?

Not from the field so RTTS will still be good. Everyone can put them in SR at the start of the game, but being able to do it from the field will still be rare and work the same as now.

[turner430]

Yeah I'm not sure its mega useful. Nothing that a Tryon couldn't do.
The main use at the moment is I doubt anyone would see it coming. Pheremone trail was fairly awful.

[purestrain]

Jun 26, 2020 21:15:36 GMT turner430 said:

Yeah I'm not sure its mega useful. Nothing that a Tryon couldn't do.
The main use at the moment is I doubt anyone would see it coming. Pheremone trail was fairly awful.

You cant use PT on their tunnel, so idk what you mean

[gloomfang]

Jun 26, 2020 22:19:32 GMT purestrain said:

Jun 26, 2020 21:15:36 GMT turner430 said:

Yeah I'm not sure its mega useful. Nothing that a Tryon couldn't do.
The main use at the moment is I doubt anyone would see it coming. Pheremone trail was fairly awful.

You cant use PT on their tunnel, so idk what you mean

He means if you're going to want to have a "surprise" pop up unit it is better to use a trygon with its tunnel rather than spend at least 2 CP to use the lictor and SR.

[purestrain]

Jun 27, 2020 0:42:04 GMT gloomfang said:

Jun 26, 2020 22:19:32 GMT purestrain said:

You cant use PT on their tunnel, so idk what you mean

He means if you're going to want to have a "surprise" pop up unit it is better to use a trygon with its tunnel rather than spend at least 2 CP to use the lictor and SR.

This is where people fail to utilize what we have for that.

A 1k game using outnumber -ap and talons -ap with a ravenor pack that the lictor helps get closer on t2, costs 1 cp and has no overwatch to it.

[gloomfang]

Jun 27, 2020 0:49:06 GMT purestrain said:

Jun 27, 2020 0:42:04 GMT gloomfang said:

He means if you're going to want to have a "surprise" pop up unit it is better to use a trygon with its tunnel rather than spend at least 2 CP to use the lictor and SR.

This is where people fail to utilize what we have for that.

A 1k game using outnumber -ap and talons -ap with a ravenor pack that the lictor helps get closer on t2, costs 1 cp and has no overwatch to it.

That's pretty much what you can do now. Where are you getting the part about no overwatch though?

[purestrain]

Jun 27, 2020 1:06:36 GMT gloomfang said:

Jun 27, 2020 0:49:06 GMT purestrain said:

This is where people fail to utilize what we have for that.

A 1k game using outnumber -ap and talons -ap with a ravenor pack that the lictor helps get closer on t2, costs 1 cp and has no overwatch to it.

That's pretty much what you can do now. Where are you getting the part about no overwatch though?

The stratagem that lictors revolve around? 1cp no overwatch +1 to charge range.

Only if you DS or jump them from terrain (ruins specifically iirc)

[hivemind03]

Jun 26, 2020 13:42:11 GMT purestrain said:

turn 2 lictor DS into an open part of their zone, use outflank on the stealers you have and 1cp them to him instead. Charge a unit with both (thats clearly within 9) and if you make it just overrun away out of their zone so you dont get auto charged and the lictor can stay to get you a secondary for being in three zones or some (please do not swear).

I like this stuff

Didn't they say units that already have abilities to be placed in reserves can't be placed in Strategic Reserves? Genestealers have infestation nodes. Also I'm sure they'll faq it to not allow Pheromone Trail to work with Strategic Reserves for the same reason it doesn't work with anything else.

[gloomfang]

Jun 27, 2020 1:10:43 GMT purestrain said:

Jun 27, 2020 1:06:36 GMT gloomfang said:

That's pretty much what you can do now. Where are you getting the part about no overwatch though?

The stratagem that lictors revolve around? 1cp no overwatch +1 to charge range.

Only if you DS or jump them from terrain (ruins specifically iirc)

Oh. Your talking about Surprise Ambush from BoB. Your talking about the current tactic of popping up with hidden hunter, popping in raveners using PT, Using SA to get into CC with the lictor and then charging in with the raveners once the lictor is in CC with the unit. I thought you were talking about something new.

(and it only has to be in area terrain to use SA if the lictor is already on the table. You can always do it the turn you place it with HH.)