Second Start Collecting box

[thepounder]

Ok gents, I’m planning my next expansion for Hive Fleet Ariagnee.

I definitely need more bodies so some Gaunts are on the cards.

Now I already bought one Start Collecting box when I started the swarm.

I’d get 8 Stealers another Broodlord (I’ll probably convert this into a Lictor) and a Trygon so would give me a lot of stuff to be getting on with.

So what do you think? Worth getting another?

[Overread]

I don't think there's ever been a time when more genestealers is a bad thing and as you say you get another big beasty and a brood lord; all for a good saving. It's a good set and worth getting and you can make use of all the components.



The only negative (and I say this with a set right in front of me now) is the freaking mouldlines on the genestealers. Other than the amount of time they take to clean up (broodlord is fine its a newer sculpt); its a good box and you want those stealers anyway (and its the same kit in the genestealer box so its not like you can avoid the mouldlines).

[niiai]

I guess the real question is can you convert the trygon mawlock into something else?

[kazetanade]

I might be mis-remembering... but the best setup for a fresh player to get pieces of an army is 3 Battle-Force, 2 Start Collecting (Or, 2 Battleforce 1 Start Collecting). The Battle Force is REALLY good.

Each Battle-Force is:

1 Tyrant
2 Carnifexes
12 Gaunts
12 Gants
12 Gargs
8 Genestealers

Each Start Collecting is:
1 Broodlord
1 Trygon
8 Genestealers

So if you went 2 BF and 1 SC, you'd get enough to do this:

Kraken
SL
BL
1x 20 GS
1x 24 Hormagant
1x Ripper

Behemoth
SuperFlyrant
_____
1 x 24 Devilgants
2 x Rippers
1 x 24 Gargs for DS Charging
1 x Trygon for Devilgant delivery + Charging
2 x 2 Carnifex for general purpose

If you add 1 more SC and 1 more BF, you round out everything to 30 get a 2nd GS squad of 20 to round off the first detachment completely, get one more BL to round off the 2nd detachment completely, and can create a 3rd detachment of Jormungandr Walkrant, 2 x 3 Dakkafexes, and 1 Mawloc.



EDIT: The absolute best value you can get is probably a really old Forces of The Hive Mind box, which has been discontinued for at least half a decade. If you can find this box, it's an instant 30 Gaunts Gants and 20 Gargs.

[Overread]

Battleforces aren't on sale any more and are gone. Even the secondhand market has been pretty much stripped of any of that kind of content now for a while - the only ones left tend to be the super overpriced ones where you make no saving at all over retail of the individual kits or even spend way more. Best bet on that front is clawsed crossed for a Christmas Battleforce which are nearly always worth it for Tyranids or a special release battleforce. I'm sure they will come around again in some form ;but right now all you've got is the Getting Started sets.

[kazetanade]

But they just released the new battleforce in Dec. It's not even 6 months, how can it be discontinued already?

[Overread]

May 17, 2020 9:35:49 GMT kazetanade said:

But they just released the new battleforce in Dec. It's not even 6 months, how can it be discontinued already?

Christmas battleforces are only made for Christmas, they aren't a long term thing. GW uses them to help boost Christmas sales and then when the stock is gone its gone. Some last into the year for less popular armies or for armies where GW made more stock than the others. Most sell out around the Christmas period. Any that last until the next christmas get pulled then.

The ones that tend to stay in stock the longest tend to be for armies which are really underperforming - for AoS this meant several for armies that didn't have battletomes for the 2.0 rules edition.

[thepounder]

Thanks guys, I've decided not to get one for now. There's so many cool models to choose from! I should try and diversify my Swarm.