GSC advice

[N.I.B.]

Best Forces of the Hive Mind list at the LVO at #33:


Kraken battallion
The Swarmlord
Broodlord

20 Genestealers, ScyTals, 5 Acid Maw
20 Genestealers, ScyTals, 5 Acid Maw
3 Ripper Swarms

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Twisted Helix battallion
Annointed Throng -1CP
Broodcoven -1CP

Abominant
Primus

14 Acolytes, Hand Flamers, Cult Icon
5 Acolytes
5 Acolytes

10 Aberrants, picks (2 Hypermorphs with HIW)

Biophagus (Alchemicus Familiar)
Nexos

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GSC mixed battallion
Magus – Familiar, The Crouchling (I guess he’s 4AE for Vect and Cunning)
Patriarch (I assume Twisted Helix)

10 Brood Brothers
10 Brood Brothers
11 Brood Brothers

2000pts


I haven't played GSC much myself, how would you go about this list most effective? Warlord traits (both Patriarch and Primus want Alien Majesty)? Relics? Tactics? I guess Genestealers and Acolyte flamers can remove screens for a turn 2-3 assault from the Aberrants. Would you reserve the Aberrants? Or is there something new in the PA that can give them better advance + charge (provided you get Psychic Stimulus off)?
There's the option to give one Genestealer unit 2D6 Consolidate move, or a 6" Heroic Intervention.

[kazetanade]

This list does not benefit from BoB or TGG at all - it basically works as advertised, and works the same as it always has against any army not Knights.

[N.I.B.]

And how is that? What warlord traits would you take? Extra relic?

[kazetanade]

Feb 16, 2020 22:04:01 GMT N.I.B. said:

And how is that? What warlord traits would you take? Extra relic?

Genestealers kill or take the middle of table, Acolytes clear exposed chaff/bubblewrap or obj grabbers, Abbys come down and wreck face. Play the early lead and try to mitigate return damage as much as possible via target priority, wrapping, and LOS abuse.

This army works against Any army that can't remove itself from being wrapped, and can brute strength its way through FLY armies that aren't real Fliers.

It does have problems with the early game Kill and Kill More if you can't spend CP - triple batt let's you have the early turn advantage and still keep enough CP for the Abbys.

WLT is probably Alien Majesty for the Primus, then either the TH one, -1 to hit, or the extra A/S/T one for Patriarch. Magus takes FAE.

The only relic really required here is Crouchling(for me). Can take +S on the Iconward if there was one (I don't think there is?) if you're up against T8, since Abbys need that to hammer down. Can take ignore OW on the Abominant. Can also take the Super Patty config, although I don't like it personally, but the only thing core everything is probably Crouchling or Ignore Overwatch. I cannot remember any of the new relics we have from GSC.

The new GSC does benefit from some of the new strategems, but the impact is minor and a waste of CP for this list.

CP expenditure is already high - we're talking 4-5 on charge turn for GS, possible 2-4 in the counter charge phase, then 6-8 for the Abbys and 2 for the Acolytes. Tag Vect and Specialist and specialist wlt, you're dry.

Edit: there's no Iconward so this list has major difficulties vs T8 lists. There's no Clamavus so the DS out of deepstrike is hard - all or nothing on the PA Abbies. No ignore overwatch here, because no workable platforms to carry it.

[No One]

kazetanade said:

I cannot remember any of the new relics we have from GSC.

None. It'll probably want new TH power against some lists, and maybe magus strat would be something to consider, but being solo FAE as is would make that unappealing. But yeah, PA really doesn't change much for GSC.

[N.I.B.]

Feb 17, 2020 3:14:05 GMT kazetanade said:

Edit: there's no Iconward so this list has major difficulties vs T8 lists. There's no Clamavus so the DS out of deepstrike is hard - all or nothing on the PA Abbies. No ignore overwatch here, because no workable platforms to carry it.

Yeah, the 'missing' Clamavus and no 4AE bonus and no Insidious Mindwyrm got me thinking he might've deployed the Aberrants on the table and used them as wannabe Genestealers.
And I agree, deny OW doesn't seem very attractive with so random charges from reserves.

[kazetanade]

Feb 17, 2020 14:19:08 GMT N.I.B. said:

Feb 17, 2020 3:14:05 GMT kazetanade said:

Edit: there's no Iconward so this list has major difficulties vs T8 lists. There's no Clamavus so the DS out of deepstrike is hard - all or nothing on the PA Abbies. No ignore overwatch here, because no workable platforms to carry it.

Yeah, the 'missing' Clamavus and no 4AE bonus and no Insidious Mindwyrm got me thinking he might've deployed the Aberrants on the table and used them as wannabe Genestealers.
And I agree, deny OW doesn't seem very attractive with so random charges from reserves.

You must have Clamavus and Insidius for Abby run to work. Trust me on that one - otherwise one bad roll and some premeasuring means they die. Those Abbies are coming in on PA charge, deny overwatch via spell.