Shooty jorm/Kronos list

[strifethot]

I’m working on a shooty nid list.
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids) [60 PL, 1,014pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Jormungandr

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 222pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 77pts]: Boneswords, Deathspitter

Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 77pts]: Boneswords, Deathspitter

+ Troops +

Termagants [6 PL, 56pts]
. 14x Termagant (Fleshborer)

Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 246pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Enhanced Resistance
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon

Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 246pts]
. Adaptive Physiology: Enhanced Resistance
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon

+ Elites +

Venomthropes [5 PL, 90pts]: 3x Venomthrope

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids) [57 PL, 986pts] ++

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 222pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

Neurothrope [4 PL, 90pts]

+ Troops +

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

Termagants [3 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)

+ Elites +

Hive Guard [13 PL, 258pts]
. 6x Hive Guard (Impaler): 6x Impaler Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Exocrine [11 PL, 155pts]

Exocrine [11 PL, 155pts]

++ Total: [117 PL, 2,000pts] ++

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The plan is to move up with the warriors and tyrants to cap objectives and gun down the opponents. And the hive tyrants provide harassment.

[No One]

I don't think the 2nd prime is worth it: you don't need another HQ, and 75 pts for +1 on maybe 1 unit of warriors?

[beetlejuice]

You can swap the second prime for a tyrannocyte for one of the exocrines instead

[No One]

I don't like that: it lowers their immediate impact, delays their impact, and can only protect one, so the other just dies anyway. So it only helps when both would die, or you can only hide one: if either's going to be consistently the case I guess it works? But I don't think it would be.

[strifethot]

Feb 5, 2020 5:31:43 GMT No One said:

I don't like that: it lowers their immediate impact, delays their impact, and can only protect one, so the other just dies anyway. So it only helps when both would die, or you can only hide one: if either's going to be consistently the case I guess it works? But I don't think it would be.

I don’t like the exo in the Tyrannocyte very much either. I’d rather them far in the back. I was thinking about taking a squad of Raveners to drop a squad of tyranid warriors and then cast the jorm power on them

[khyz0r]

Just saw this list was similar to the one I just posted. Do you have any feedback how it went?

[garg]

I agree with no one on the second prime.

The thing i find about warriors is that while they can do melee in a pinch dedicated melee like stealers, choppa boys can really hurt them. You could take some lash whips to mitigate this since they at least make it harder for your opponent to consolidate into other stuff. More screen could help too, what i want to try is use warriors with scytals and some lw/bs (ie no guns) as a screen.

Finally you could consider finding space for a maleceptor (by swapping out the venomthropes and a hq for a malanthrope).

[khyz0r]

I agree the malan/malec combo really helps protect sit back shooty units like Exo's, Hive guard and Warriors. It can take opponent by surprise when they realise how much firepower they need to take down a unit.

[phayze]

I run almost this exact list. I've swapped around the hive guard and tyrants a bit, but a few things I've noticed: you NEED more chaff to keep your bugs shooting. if your opponent can tag the warriors or swing around and tag one of the bigger shooty units, you're going to have a bad time.

My question is how have those extra tyrants treated you? Mine have been underperforming for me, and I kill myself every time one gets into combat without a set of melee weapons.

[N.I.B.]

Warriors protecting a gunline should all have Bonesword&Lashwhips. It stops consolidation moves, prevents Berzerkers fighting twice, plus they can always hit back even when kept back in defensive position to recieve chargers.

[phayze]

Hit back, yes, but not at full strength. 4A warriors do a lot more damage than 3A warriors. When receiving charges, sure, the LW/BS keeps their attacks in, but I wouldn't consider giving EVERY warrior them. Maybe 3/9.

[No One]

Physically protecting the gunline should be for gaunts. Warriors let you push out a bit, you don't need LW&BS for that. LW&BS are fine as a tech choice on a couple of models, but not the whole unit. Doesn't do anything in many match ups, and doesn't do much past the first couple in the match ups you take it for.