My first tyranid list

[strifethot]

I’m new to tyranids, this is made of from some stuff I’m getting in a trade and a few things I’ve bought. What do y’all think
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids) [53 PL, 970pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Kronos

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 222pts]: Heavy Venom Cannon, Pathogenesis, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots, Wings

Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 77pts]: Boneswords, Deathspitter

+ Troops +

Termagants [9 PL, 200pts]
. 25x Termagant (Devourer): 25x Devourer

Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 164pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon

Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 164pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Boneswords, Deathspitter, Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior (Bio-cannon): Boneswords, Venom Cannon

+ Flyer +

Harpy [9 PL, 143pts]: 2x Stranglethorn Cannon, Stinger Salvo

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids) [38 PL, 585pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Behemoth

+ HQ +

Neurothrope [4 PL, 90pts]: Warlord, Warlord Trait: Synaptic Lynchpin

Neurothrope [4 PL, 90pts]

+ Troops +

Genestealers [12 PL, 180pts]
. 15x Genestealer: 15x Rending Claws

Hormagaunts [9 PL, 125pts]: 25x Hormagaunt

Termagants [9 PL, 100pts]
. 25x Termagant (Fleshborer)

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Tyranids) [22 PL, 442pts, -1CP] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Kronos

Stratagem: Progeny of the Hive [-1CP]

+ Lord of War +

Barbed Hierodule [22 PL, 442pts]: Massive Scything Talons
. Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

++ Total: [113 PL, -1CP, 1,997pts] ++

The idea is to buff the hierodule and surround it with the rest of my Kronos force to make a firebase while the rest of the list acts as board control and aggression

[irondreddknight]

My conern would be that competitive lists are built with knights in mind. The heirodule has a knight profile only with a worse save. Dermic symbiosis helps and so would catalyst. But truth is anything can be removed when focus fired. The problem then is is there enough left to do the heavy lifting?

Look at it this way, if you go second and the worst case scenario happens and barbie dies. Do you have enough confidence in the rest of the force to win the game? What is plan B?

If terrain is good then you can hide barbie, which wont be easy since shes so big. Plan to go second and deploy with caution. Then choose your targets carefully, you need her to do work before she's inevitability focussed down.


Moving away from barbie, Id recommend filling out one unit of warriors and giving it enhanced resistance. Makes them a lot more tanky. You would need to sacrifice the warlord trait, but in all honesty our WL traits are mediocre at best and its worth the swap.

The harpy struggles from not having hard to hit and only T6 with a 4+ save. It likely wont make its points back in time with only 4+BS. Reconsider using the points elsewhere, perhaps a venom/malanthrope for the -1 aura.

When taking devourers on termagants, its advised to mix them with fleshborers. That way when the unit starts taking casualties, you can remove the cheaper models first and you dont lose so much fire power. Half and half is a good mix. The exception to the rule is the termagant bomb, which when they deep.

[bigpig]

Competitive trying to win games or beer and pretzels playing with friends who WILL NOT tailor to beat you?

[strifethot]

Jan 18, 2020 9:50:52 GMT bigpig said:

Competitive trying to win games or beer and pretzels playing with friends who WILL NOT tailor to beat you?

Both I guess

[afewveiws]

Kronos is going to lend its self to an immobile platform which could work in some cases but models with high mobility usually rely on it to survive or force optimal trades.

Warriors are generally a mid ranged unit with mid tier durability relying on multiple phases to make full use of thier points. Forcing them to function as an immobile meat shield takes away alot of thier versitility value.

The tyrant you have there has very little need for wings since its guns have good range and without a melee weapon, covering large amounts of space is less neccessary. The price of the wings might be too much for what it provides to the model...

I wont criticize the LOW since i have no experience using them but im sure alot of others will.

Behemoth as a secondary fleet could work as a turn 2 deepstrike rush but with no deepstrikers in the list and no way to really cover ground that part of your list would be better as a kraken fleet. It would privide more speed options and it lends its self better toward a more attrition based play style. Behemoth is more of a shotgun (closer is better and all the damage in 1-2 bursts) where as kraken is more like an assault rifle (less damage from better range spread out over several turns but easier to pridict) pros and cons and all.

I think for a more mobile gun beast list i would recomend jorm over kronos.

[No One]

Basically as above. Nothing really wants to be Kronos: barbed is basically a worse unit of hive guard (200 pts more for worse BS and able to be shot, trading ignores LoS for threat range and melee?). If you're not getting use out of its melee and mobility, it's not worth bothering with.

[bigpig]

Jan 18, 2020 17:29:48 GMT strifethot said:

Jan 18, 2020 9:50:52 GMT bigpig said:

Competitive trying to win games or beer and pretzels playing with friends who WILL NOT tailor to beat you?

Both I guess

If people will tailor for you then the Hierodule is a subpar choice. You would be far better just to play more Hive Guard for the points. Hierodule is rule of cool fun but it is way subpar from a want to win standpoint