2k "Warrthropes"

[zimko]

What's the most resilient and annoying Tyranid list I can think of that can still dish out damage? This is what I came up with.

Leviathan Battalion

Broodlord: Resonance Barb, Catalyst - 115 pts 8 PL
Tyranid Prime: Adrenal Glands, Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword, Toxin Sacs - 81 pts 6 PL

9x Warriors: Enhanced Resistance, Adrenal Glands, 6 Deathspitters, 3 Venom Cannons, 9 Lash Whip and Boneswords - 255 pts 13 PL
9x Warriors: Enhanced Resistance, Adrenal Glands, 6 Deathspitters, 3 Venom Cannons, 9 Lash Whip and Boneswords - 255 pts 13 PL
20x Genestealers: Scything Talons - 240 pts 16 PL

3x Biovores - 120 pts 6 PL
3x Biovores - 120 pts 6 PL

Leviathan Vanguard

Neurothrope: Warlord, Onslaught - 90 pts 4 PL

6x Zoanthropes: The Horror - 240 pts 12 PL
6x Zoanthropes: Psychic Scream - 240 pts 12 PL
6x Zoanthropes: Paroxysm - 240 pts 12 PL

1996 pts 68 PL

EDIT: Revised List with even more resilience but less counter-charge.

Leviathan Battalion

Malanthrope: Warlord - 120 pts 5 PL
Tyranid Prime: Adrenal Glands, Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword, Toxin Sacs - 81 pts 6 PL

9x Warriors: Enhanced Resistance, Adrenal Glands, 6 Deathspitters, 3 Venom Cannons, 9 Lash Whip and Boneswords - 255 pts 13 PL
9x Warriors: Enhanced Resistance, Adrenal Glands, 6 Deathspitters, 3 Venom Cannons, 9 Lash Whip and Boneswords - 255 pts 13 PL
3x Ripper Swarms
3x Ripper Swarms

3x Biovores - 120 pts 6 PL
3x Biovores - 120 pts 6 PL

Leviathan Vanguard

Neurothrope: Resonance Barb, Catalyst - 90 pts 4 PL

6x Zoanthropes: The Horror - 240 pts 12 PL
6x Zoanthropes: Psychic Scream - 240 pts 12 PL
6x Zoanthropes: Paroxysm - 240 pts 12 PL
Maleceptor: Onslaught - 160 pts 9 PL

1987 pts 68 PL

[bolzor]

Yah, this would certainly be sticky! I like the Leviathan play for this since any amount of FnP suddenly turns warriors and Zoans into a nightmare to remove for high damage weaponry but perhaps consider Jorm for the Warrior Battalion if you really want them to hold their own against any volume fire.

Find a way to work a Malanthrope into the Leviathan Vanguard to grant some -1 to Hit bubble on that big Zoanthrope blob too. I would toss the Genestealers in favor of it and fill out the Battalion with good ol' fashion Rippers. That may give you enough wiggle room to even fit a Malceptor somewhere in the list for even more tough-guy shenanigans.

[hiveoverall]

Very inspiring, I think this could really have some play, not simùply be annoying... I would include a GSC vanguard to have an assassin snipe out enemy psykers. Because the zoy super smites can't affod to get wrecked !

Also you could be even more sticky and play thropes, venom if then malan is FW banned as is where i play) for the -1 to get hit

[garg]

I agree on ditching the stealers. The warriors offer some counter melee thanks to the lashwhips.
You should also consider a maleceptor for increased durability. Perhaps by dropping two of the zoanthrope squads to 5 mans so you can include both the venomthropes and maleceptor

[zimko]

Leviathan Battalion

Malanthrope: Warlord - 120 pts 5 PL
Tyranid Prime: Adrenal Glands, Deathspitter, Lash Whip and Bonesword, Toxin Sacs - 81 pts 6 PL

9x Warriors: Enhanced Resistance, Adrenal Glands, 6 Deathspitters, 3 Venom Cannons, 9 Lash Whip and Boneswords - 255 pts 13 PL
9x Warriors: Enhanced Resistance, Adrenal Glands, 6 Deathspitters, 3 Venom Cannons, 9 Lash Whip and Boneswords - 255 pts 13 PL
3x Ripper Swarms
3x Ripper Swarms

3x Biovores - 120 pts 6 PL
3x Biovores - 120 pts 6 PL

Leviathan Vanguard

Neurothrope: Resonance Barb, Catalyst - 90 pts 4 PL

6x Zoanthropes: The Horror - 240 pts 12 PL
6x Zoanthropes: Psychic Scream - 240 pts 12 PL
6x Zoanthropes: Paroxysm - 240 pts 12 PL
Maleceptor: Onslaught - 160 pts 9 PL

1987 pts 68 PL

Here's a revised list. Removed the Broodlord and Genestealers. Added Malanthrope and made him the warlord (not as easy to snipe with 9 wounds). Gave Resonance Barb to the Neurothrope and gave him Catalyst since that is the most important power I have. Added a Maleceptor and gave him Onslaught. Added 2 units of Rippers.

The rippers can do engineers as a more reliable secondary objective against certain matchups. This list is much more 'deathball' like with everything wanting to be within 3" of the Malanthrope and 6" of the Maleceptor. But due to the size of the bases and units, I think it's very possible. Zoanthropes having fly will help a lot with movement.

I have 13 pts left over but not sure where to put them, if anywhere. I could add a ripper base but that just makes them harder to hide.

[zimko]

As for the debate between Jorm warriors and Leviathon warriors... there are quite a few things that can ignore cover. Imperial Fists, Tau, Custom eldar craftworlds, Hive Guard... just to name a few. I'd rather have an ability that always works, even in melee, and messes with weapons that do a flat 3 damage. Also, as leviathon I'm allowed to advance and not lose my ability. With onslaught, a warrior unit can advance and shoot normally, which is helpful for establishing a mid-field presence on turn 1 and 2.

[garg]

I think the list looks better now. The one thing you might consider is to shift around to get another battalion.
Remove 1 zoanthrope, 1 biovore and reduce some of the equipment on the warriors (reduce to 6 BS/whip per squad, remove ag). Then you need to either remove another zoanthrope or biovore or split one of the warriors to 6 and 3 or simply remove 1-2 warriors.
I'll be curious about your experience. I tried something similar, i ended up getting bogged down in melee with the warriors which negated the ignore ap because it was either no ap or -3 or greater.

[zimko]

It'll be a couple months before I can build up to this list. The warriors are being built. For now I am using my standard Genestealer Sling list. Thanks for the advice.

[N.I.B.]

How many markers on a unit to ignore cover, for Tau?

[zimko]

It is 4 markers. Tau typically try to get 5 markers on a target for +1 to hit when they really want something dead.