Nexos cp farm wording

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Does anyone know if the nexos rolls one D6 per cp spent or if it's per strategem?

For reference, here is the wording

"In addition, if your army is Battle-forged, roll one D6 for each time either player spends a Command Point to use a Stratagem whilst any NEXOSES from your army are on the battlefield... In either case, if the result is 6+ you immediately gain 1 Command Point."

[purestrain]

Aug 27, 2019 18:06:39 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Does anyone know if the nexos rolls one D6 per cp spent or if it's per strategem?

For reference, here is the wording

"In addition, if your army is Battle-forged, roll one D6 for each time either player spends a Command Point to use a Stratagem whilst any NEXOSES from your army are on the battlefield... In either case, if the result is 6+ you immediately gain 1 Command Point."

I'd say it's good on each CP used (IE vect allows 4d6) Iirc there is an faq about this that only lets you get the amount you could gain that once and that's all, might be about another kind of ability.

[nidzy]

Aug 27, 2019 18:13:49 GMT purestrain said:

Aug 27, 2019 18:06:39 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Does anyone know if the nexos rolls one D6 per cp spent or if it's per strategem?

For reference, here is the wording

"In addition, if your army is Battle-forged, roll one D6 for each time either player spends a Command Point to use a Stratagem whilst any NEXOSES from your army are on the battlefield... In either case, if the result is 6+ you immediately gain 1 Command Point."

I'd say it's good on each CP used (IE vect allows 4d6) Iirc there is an faq about this that only lets you get the amount you could gain that once and that's all, might be about another kind of ability.

The faq actually says you can only get 1 cp back per battle round. Otherwise the nexos would be the best cp farm in the game.

[wormlord666]

You roll everytime you spend a CP. If a strat cost 3 CP you spend a CP three times, so roll three dice. The rules that stops CP farming is another issue. You can only get one, but you have one chance on everyvCP.

[purestrain]

Yeah tactical restraint only lets specific things gain more than one and only if 2 or more are spent, abilities are limited to one gained, no matter the source. This means you can roll 4d6 on vect, all of them are 6s but you can only receive 1 command point.

Remember that feeder tendrils, agents of vect, uprising and any other similar stratagem still grant you as many as stated on the card itself.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Ok! Im on board with what all of you are stating. Now I just need to figure out if bringing a nexos is actually worth it.

[nidzy]

Aug 28, 2019 18:37:59 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Ok! Im on board with what all of you are stating. Now I just need to figure out if bringing a nexos is actually worth it.

I have played 8 or 10 games with him and he does okay. One of my favorite things is to deploy him first out of LoS when I know my opponent is going to use cp while deploying to try to snag an extra cp pre game. Is this cheating? Nobody has ever argued with the phrasing. His rule says “while the nexos is on the battlefield,” so instead of deploying him as a blip I just put him out.

In epic fashion he won me a game last tournament. I had one cp left and my opponent used a command reroll with the unit he had activated first. I rolled a 5 and got the cp as my primus was deployed, then interrupted to kill his last unit of engineers denying him 2 VP and securing the victory.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Aug 28, 2019 21:54:41 GMT nidzy said:

Aug 28, 2019 18:37:59 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Ok! Im on board with what all of you are stating. Now I just need to figure out if bringing a nexos is actually worth it.

I have played 8 or 10 games with him and he does okay. One of my favorite things is to deploy him first out of LoS when I know my opponent is going to use cp while deploying to try to snag an extra cp pre game. Is this cheating? Nobody has ever argued with the phrasing. His rule says “while the nexos is on the battlefield,” so instead of deploying him as a blip I just put him out.

In epic fashion he won me a game last tournament. I had one cp left and my opponent used a command reroll with the unit he had activated first. I rolled a 5 and got the cp as my primus was deployed, then interrupted to kill his last unit of engineers denying him 2 VP and securing the victory.

Sadly the latest update bars us from snagging command points prior to the start of the battle.

"Command Points that are spent on Stratagems that are not used during a battle round, such as those that are used ‘before the battle’, can never be refunded."

[xsquidz]

Aug 28, 2019 21:54:41 GMT nidzy said:

Aug 28, 2019 18:37:59 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Ok! Im on board with what all of you are stating. Now I just need to figure out if bringing a nexos is actually worth it.

I have played 8 or 10 games with him and he does okay. One of my favorite things is to deploy him first out of LoS when I know my opponent is going to use cp while deploying to try to snag an extra cp pre game. Is this cheating? Nobody has ever argued with the phrasing. His rule says “while the nexos is on the battlefield,” so instead of deploying him as a blip I just put him out.

In epic fashion he won me a game last tournament. I had one cp left and my opponent used a command reroll with the unit he had activated first. I rolled a 5 and got the cp as my primus was deployed, then interrupted to kill his last unit of engineers denying him 2 VP and securing the victory.

I almost always find him worth it and here is why:  Over the course of the game he should get back a CP almost every turn, especially when other characters come in later and you start getting it on a 5+.  Lets say you get back 5 over an entire game, that is as much as a battalion gets you for only an investment of 1 model instead of needing 2 HQ and 3 troops.  If you only get back say 2-3 I would still say its worth if you get lucky and get one each turn and it goes to 7, you are gold!

[nidzy]

Aug 28, 2019 22:52:49 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Aug 28, 2019 21:54:41 GMT nidzy said:

I have played 8 or 10 games with him and he does okay. One of my favorite things is to deploy him first out of LoS when I know my opponent is going to use cp while deploying to try to snag an extra cp pre game. Is this cheating? Nobody has ever argued with the phrasing. His rule says “while the nexos is on the battlefield,” so instead of deploying him as a blip I just put him out.

In epic fashion he won me a game last tournament. I had one cp left and my opponent used a command reroll with the unit he had activated first. I rolled a 5 and got the cp as my primus was deployed, then interrupted to kill his last unit of engineers denying him 2 VP and securing the victory.

Sadly the latest update bars us from snagging command points prior to the start of the battle.

"Command Points that are spent on Stratagems that are not used during a battle round, such as those that are used ‘before the battle’, can never be refunded."

Thanks for that. It’s not anything that I have happened to accomplish in a competitive game but I will let my relevant group members know I mighta cheated them.

[kazetanade]

He's given me around 2 to 3 do in the games I've had him, so not bad. You need drops on the table anyway so he helps makes the numbers .

I seldom get 5 back due to do expenditure being heavy in like 2 turns, no co by turn 4.

[No One]

Also good for FAE strat as well: just exists on the table. But yeah, usually nothing T1, sometimes misses 2-4, nothing T5+ (if I make it that far ): I'd say average for me is ~2.5.

[1b2a]

Does the Patriarch get unquestioning loyalty?

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Sept 10, 2019 16:30:16 GMT 1b2a said:

Does the Patriarch get unquestioning loyalty?

No. Unquestioning loyalty is for the troops. What it means is that the patriarch cannot intercept a wound for another character.

[1b2a]

Sept 10, 2019 16:42:07 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Sept 10, 2019 16:30:16 GMT 1b2a said:

Does the Patriarch get unquestioning loyalty?

No. Unquestioning loyalty is for the troops. What it means is that the patriarch cannot intercept a wound for another character.

Can troops intercept for patriarch? Under the heat I couldn't look it up properly, but it was ruled that he cannot.