Favorite/best hive fleet?

[drdotts]

What is everyone’s favorite/best hive fleet of choice and why? I personally enjoy more of a gunline list and love Kronos

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Kraken is widely considered to be the best due to max of 3d6 advance being super powerful.

After that, I'd say that jorm, leviathan, kronos, hydra, and gorgon in terms of pure power, but hydra/gorgon are way less powerful than the other 3.

Personally, I like running kraken or jorm. Kraken is fun as it gets with any strategy, while jorm is great for shoot carnifex: 2+ saves are great. I tried kronos a couple times but found that for me reroll ones if you don't move is severely limiting, so I almost never got to take advantage of the fleet trait.

[naviedzony]

Kraken and kronos soup works best for me.

[Mioum]

How do you guys play with Kraken in general? Mainly Genestealers? Otherwise I see little bonus of advancing 3D6-pick-best if I can't charge or get a penalty to shoot (with our already average shooting capability). Sure you get a smidge faster and closer for next turn, but stuff will just be gunned down all the same (and might just put you in rapid fire range anyway). I'm more drawn toward Leviathan myself for the added survivability in general.

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Jan 26, 2019 21:31:52 GMT Mioum said:

How do you guys play with Kraken in general? Mainly Genestealers? Otherwise I see little bonus of advancing 3D6-pick-best if I can't charge or get a penalty to shoot (with our already average shooting capability). Sure you get a smidge faster and closer for next turn, but stuff will just be gunned down all the same (and might just put you in rapid fire range anyway). I'm more drawn toward Leviathan myself for the added survivability in general.

I've actually played kraken a ton of different ways. They give you a lot more than a bit better advance. Fall back and charge is great, especially when coupled with fly (fall back, shoot, charge flyra ts). The advance also removes a lot of variance. I think you average about a 5" advance. Chameleonic mutation is also one of our best relics too.

I've played the following styles of lists since the first big FAQ
1) genestealer sling shot with swarmy
2) a carnifex stampede with hormogaunts for lockdown shenanigans
3) flyrants nidzilla of multiple varieties

My problem with leviathan is that you have to build a list around the fleet. You really want to run lots of gribblies with lots of synapse, so probably warriors + gaunts and maybe zoans, imo.

[remington]

I play Kraken-Jormungandr now, at first I played w/Behemoth. Fluffwise, color etc.Behemoth is the best except gamewise (now).

[robungo]

I've been playing too many static armies like Admech and guard so at the moment i'm loving Kraken with a passion. Getting a first turn charge is always fun and those 20 genestealers will nick the jeans from anything in their path.

[sleep]

I love Leviathan. Now that we have 4+ invulnerable on many big guys, you combine the 6+++ with -1 to hit from venomthropes and stratagem for being in cover first turn, they can soak a lot of firepower.

[nathwraith]

I found kraken to be good with my shooting heavy list. Allowing carnifex or hive tyrant to fall back and then counter charge next turn is solid. Also allows other units to open up on the unit that you were locked in combat with.

[hive fleet cicaida]

Kronos is my go to in almost any situation

[hadies]

I know it is terrible, but I like my Hydra. The adaptation is fun for my favorite play stile (all the bodies), and endless regeneration on a flyrent makes him nearly invincible when paired with catalist.

The relic sucks and the stratagem is useless (seriously, read the thread on endless swarm), but the lore is beautiful, and if you like hyper swarms, hail hydra!

In bigger lists I do pair it with Kronos for some ranged support as well.

[LordPathos]

I really feel that Behemoth should have the fall back/charge rule from Kraken since it rerolls charges in the first place.

[kazetanade]

Aug 17, 2019 16:05:18 GMT LordPathos said:

I really feel that Behemoth should have the fall back/charge rule from Kraken since it rerolls charges in the first place.

I'd like if they had a power boosting charge actually, like +1 to Wound.

[No One]

Yeah, Behemoth needs something else, but it's the more 'blunt instrument' of the two: fall back and charge shenanigans don't really fit.

[NidNoms]

Hydra's good cause if you run a (please do not swear) ton of gaunts it stacks with there other abilities, and giving your Warlord a healing factor is a good plus, no one can argue with Krakenstealers, Behemoth is fun but a bit blunt like others said, i want to try a Jormongandr snake army but dont have enough Ravenors to do it.