1850 Skitarii mk2

[rogueaccount]

Still figuring out what I'm going to base my purchases on. I'm not sure if running beefier squads will be more survivable with a max squad size of 10. I figure target saturation and not sinking too many points into a single unit (outside of the caliver squad) will make target priority a little more difficult. Guess that's my inner hivemind talking.  Thoughts and comments are welcome.



Vanguard x5 Arc Rifle x2

Vanguard x5 Arc Rifle x2

Vanguard x5 Arc Rifle x2

Vanguard x5 Arc Rifle x2

Vanguard x10 Plasma Caliver x3, Enhanced Data Tether

Rangers x5 Transuranic Arquebus x2, Omnispex

Rangers x5 Transuranic Arquebus x2, Omnispex



Infiltrators x5 Flechette Blasters/Taser Goads



Onager x1 Icarus Array, Cognis Heavy Stubber

Onager x1 Icarus Array, Cognis Heavy Stubber

Ironstrider x1

Ironstrider x1



Void Shield Generator Extra Void Shield x1



Ironstrider Cavaliers

Ironstrider x1

Dragoon x1

Dragoon x1



Ironstrider Cavaliers

Ironstrider x1

Dragoon x1

Dragoon x1



Ironstrider Cavaliers

Ironstrider x1

Dragoon x1

Dragoon x1

[WestRider]

Looks largely along the lines I've been thinking of. I think I'd go with an Omnispex instead of the Data Tether for the Plasma Squad, tho, and just keep a Walker or two nearby for the Broad Spectrum Data Tether.

Also, with that many Ironstriders, I'm not sure you need two Icarus Arrays. Maybe take one down to a Neutron Laser for some better reach on your Anti-Tank or something.

[rogueaccount]

Interesting thoughts. I considered kitting an onager with the neutron laser, but talked myself out of it. I've never had much luck with a single shot unit (like the rupture cannon tyrannofex). I think the dragoons should do a great job outflanking and then assaulting backfield armor (str 8 on the charge with that nice taser rule), but they'll only be effective at that starting turn 2 (if they come in on turn 1 which is a gamble, but with 3 formations on a 3+, the odds are solid).

I think I'm happy with the 2 icarus though, primarily because of all the dakka it provides. Skyfire is good against skimmers and fliers. Necrons, all flavors of Eldar, and Tau are all skimmer happy. Chaos and nids field FMC's out the wazoo. The imperium usually has a couple fliers kicking around. odds are solid that they'll see use in every game...if not then i can just snapshot with a ton of shots and go assault objectives.

once i get some models i'll tinker around with omnispex and the data tether and massage that into whatever works best. I initially kitted the arc rifle squads with refractor fields to up their survivability a bit (massed str6 will demolish these guys), but took them away to give the onagers the stubbers (to help with weapon destroyed results...and more dakka) and to finish paying for that third Cavalier formation. I think the large plas squad having the tether built in will make them less reliant on having to be withing 6" of other units...just more flexibility there. Wargear absolutely needs to be tested out in different configurations.

Thoughts on pater radium? I hate to put big expensive upgrades on small squads, but wow that thing can do some damage.

I'm not sure how well i'd fare against horde armies with this list. I suppose tying them up with striders in assault while whittling away their support elements would be the way to go. Not used to playing with low model count armies.

[WestRider]

I'm definitely looking to try out the Pater Radium at some point. Mostly trying to figure out a good delivery system. Since many of my local tournaments are a bit more open than ITC, I'm thinking of putting some Vanguard in a StormRaven with an attached Inquisitor with Rad Grenades, so the first round of Combat, they'll be taking the PR Toughness Test at -2 Might add a Marine character in there as well, mostly to tank, since the Unit is so fragile.

I generally use my Warlord pretty aggressively. End up giving up that Point pretty much every Game. If he can get me a couple of extra Plasma Hits/Wounds in the process, tho, I'm happy.

Also, on the single shot thing with the Neutron Laser: I generally agree, but with Blasts, I'm much more willing to go with it. Especially with Blasts that are generally going to be targeting Vehicles, which are pretty forgiving when it comes to Scatter. And even more so in a Skitarii list, where you're generally going to be BS5+ for a significant part of the Game. A BS5 Small Blast has something like an 80% chance of hitting a Rhino hull Vehicle or an Oval-based MC, and I'm pretty sure it's above 90% for a Land Raider or Imperial Knight.

[rogueaccount]

Hope to get some test games in soon now that i have my proxy army mostly done. I'll definitely have to make some room for pater.

[rogueaccount]

Played a team game this weekend with this list (2x1850 lists per team). While the setting wasnt ideal, this list withstood 2 armies hammering it for a couple turns while my teammate got his harder hitting stuff in from reserves. Raukan marines and Harlequins were my opponents. Full squad of harlies was taking down a Dragoon a turn. Void Shield generator was targeted and taken down first thing with little difficulty.

I think that in a one on one game, this list would do much better. Lack of objective secured really hurts versus drop pod marines though. They're just too tough to remove fast enough in maelstrom missions. Podding them in means they can easily avoid the Caliver squad.

[WestRider]

Yeah, I can see Drop Lists being an issue here. You don't really have the numbers or the sacrificial Squads to Scout out and bubble wrap against them (especially being tied to the VSG), the weight of numbers to Charge in and tarpit them, or a mass of Interceptor to put some hurt on before they can do anything.

[rogueaccount]

I could drop 2 formations of cavaliers, add in another unit of 10 vanguard with calivers and 2 dragoons in the FA slot...that'll put me losing 4 vehicles, 2 of which are autocannons. the dragoons didnt do a whole lot that game, they're acceptable cuts.

[WestRider]

Having the Dragoons able to start on the table helps a bit with the screening, too. They've got a pretty big footprint to block dudes coming out of the Pods from getting within Rapid Fire/Melta range of your really tasty stuff.