New necrons codex

[Mauler]

Jan 27, 2015 21:28:21 GMT jimmyp said:

Ah nice mate getting the cryptek version!! I got the standard codex and tomb awakened box set, pick up Friday. 

Aye, I had a £100 digital voucher on my GW account from Xmas, I needed the Necron collector's edition to go with the 6E collectors for my DA, Tau, Eldar & Tyranids! No more overly expensive books for a while now...until HH book five...

Jan 27, 2015 19:21:21 GMT jesses said:

Mauler

That's not what the rule is saying, sorry dude.

What it's saying is you can take a Necron Decurion Detachment instead of a CAD/Mephrit Detachment.

So say you take a Decurion Detachment that is made up of a Reclamation Legion, a Judicator Battalion and a Royal Court. A unit that is a part of the Reclamation Legion Formation is a part of that Formation & still a part of a Necron Decurion Detachment.

It is NOT a part of a Combined Arms Detachment. None of them are. You could take a CAD alongside it but the units wouldn't be shared between.

However you can still take these Formations as simply that, Formations, in which case they can be added to any CAD/Mephrit Detachment.

Yeah, spot-on: it's a lot more clear now that I've got the WD in front of me too. The "formation" is the Reclamation Legion which has it's own formation datasheet in WD. The formation becomes a Decurion detachment when you start adding the other listed Aux & Command elements to it and they pick up their own special rules as well as the three main rules from the Core of the formation. The extra blurb that I highlighted in my other post is referring to the Core formation and it's optional elements belonging to the same detachment, which usually can't be done with formations as they're normally fixed and can't be added to. It would make even more sense if there were another special rule or two (like Command Benefits) that applied to the entire detachment when you add extra elements to it but...well, we'll see when it's out and we get time to study it properly. Thanks again, Jacked!

[thehangedman]

Jan 28, 2015 1:36:22 GMT jesses said:

Jan 28, 2015 0:56:24 GMT britishbill said:

Re: Gauss Cannons.

Has no functional effect on gameplay. Destroyers are Jet Pack Infantry (man, they really want to keep nerfing their mobility, someone at the design team hated old Destroyer Wing) and JPI are Relentless and therefore can shoot Heavy Weapons after moving (and then still charge after).

Sadly I see Destroyers staying on the shelf. Their big problem was never durability, it was their lack of need. Necrons are pretty good at MEQ killing without them. They needed a price drop or added range, not W2.

Re: Phaeron. It seems to be gone as a rule.

Going to disagree here. Destroyers had a huge problem with durability. They were 40/60 pts models that could be killed by a single AP3 shot. Now the same 3 man unit that could be wiped out with 3 wounds, will take an average of 8 with the new RP. That's not even taking into account jet pack LOS shenanigans. 

Plus they are plenty fast for a shooty unit. Moving an average of 13" inches a turn that ignores terrain/models is excellent. They are too expensive to be used as throw away objective grabbers (that's what Tomb Blades are for) and you don't want them in assault range anyway. All you need is enough movement to keep them at 24"/36" and you are good. Heavy Destroyers in particular are awesome in the new codex.

I'm definitely going to be playing Destroyer Cult for the move through cover, so no dangerous terrain tests for me. Actually, I'm fairly certain some version of destroyer wing will be present in the new competitive meta, or at the very least you will some in a supporting role. Simply too good to pass up now.

[jesses]

Mauler what I'm a little fuzzy on (and I'll probably have to wait to see the Codex itself) is how taking items from Exterminatus interacts with the main book items. Because I reeaaaally wanna use the God Shackle while giving the Nightmare Shroud to a Destroyer Lord.

thehangedman you may be right but I've never had a real issue with people killing my Destroyers because no one even bothered to shoot at them. They just don't have anybthreat potential compared to the other units in the army. However I also play in a meta with very few Marine olayers so... eh? Who knows.

[chunk]

jackedup, sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could confirm something?

Over on Dakka, one poster states that they've seen the book, and the new Decurion detachment gives a couple of benefits.

These benefits are: +1 to reanimation protocols for all models in the Decurion, and an improvement to Living Metal.

Apparently these benefits are listed in the Decurion double-page spread in the bottom right hand corner.

Would you be able to look at your book and see whether that is correct?

[zarathamon]

Thanks Jackedup for all those tasty news!

I wanted to ask though if it's posible to get details on weapon stats. Many recently revised books have had some of the old weapons reinvented (salvos, range change and what not). So could you tell us the stats for the 3 weapon famillies in the necron family - Gauss, Tesla, Particle?

[nutthouse13]

Jackedup Thank you for doing all this.

What are the Stats on the Warscythe?
What is the Cost and stats for a Lord?
What Does a Doom Scythe Cost?

[Hyrrokin]

zarathamon, thats shown in the link to the white dwarf pages, on forum page 17.
nutthouse13, as above (same stats as before)

edit: now removed

[robzidious]

Maybe addressed already or on some leaked pics but I can't get them to load. Are all necrons units still leadership 10 all around?

[jackedup]

Answering some quick questions. Guys, for stuff like technoarcana gear, it was answered somewhere in the thread earlier. Do browse back and I'm sure you'll find it. And now, as to some other questions...

Canoptek Spyders (50 pts, MC)

WS3 BS3 S6 T6 W3 I2 A2 Ld10 Sv3+

Fearless

Once per friendly movement phase, add 1 scarab base to any scarab swarm within 6". Roll a D6, and the Spyder takes a wound on a 1.

May include up to two additional Spyders (50pts per model)
Any model may take a Fabricator Claw Array (5pts)
Any model may take a gloom prism (10 pts)
Any model may take a twin linked particle beamer (10pts per model)

Doom Scythe (160 pts, Flyer)

BS4 AV11 all around, HP3

Death Ray, Twin Linked Tesla Destructor

Living Metal, Supersonic

Necron Lords are 50 points, stats same as before, can take the wargear, artefacts, etc.

Warscythe is +2 Strength, AP2, Armourbane, Two-Handed

Necron units are still Ld.10 all around

[jackedup]

Jan 28, 2015 15:26:51 GMT chunk said:

jackedup, sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could confirm something?

Over on Dakka, one poster states that they've seen the book, and the new Decurion detachment gives a couple of benefits.

These benefits are: +1 to reanimation protocols for all models in the Decurion, and an improvement to Living Metal.

Apparently these benefits are listed in the Decurion double-page spread in the bottom right hand corner.

Would you be able to look at your book and see whether that is correct?

Command Benefits:

Models in this detachment with the Reanimation Protocols special rule receive +1 bonus ti Reanimation protocol rolls. Models in this detachment with living metal ignore the effect of crew stunned and crew shaken, but still lose a hull point.

[zarathamon]

Jan 28, 2015 15:47:40 GMT Hyrrokin said:

zarathamon, thats shown in the link to the white dwarf pages, on forum page 17.
nutthouse13, as above (same stats as before)

not sure if it's just for me but those links don't seem to work so I stand by my question on gauss, tesla and particle weaponry

[jackedup]

Jan 28, 2015 15:39:45 GMT zarathamon said:

Thanks Jackedup for all those tasty news!

I wanted to ask though if it's posible to get details on weapon stats. Many recently revised books have had some of the old weapons reinvented (salvos, range change and what not). So could you tell us the stats for the 3 weapon famillies in the necron family - Gauss, Tesla, Particle?

Gauss -

All Gauss weapons are 24", except for heavy gauss cannon (36")

Auto wound and glance on a 6 (to wound)

Gauss Blaster S5 AP4, Rapid Fire

Gauss Flayer S4 AP5, Rapid Fire

Gauss Flayer Array S4 AP5, Salvo 5/10, Independent Targeting

Gauss Cannon S5 AP3, Heavy 2

Heavy Gauss Cannon S9 AP2, Heavy 1

Gauss Flux Arc S5 AP4, Heavy 3, Independent Targeting

______

Particle (all 24" except the caster, which is 12")

Particle Beamer S6 AP5, Heavy 1, Blast

Particle caster S6 AP5, Pistol

Particle shredder S7 AP4, Heavy 1, Large Blast

Particle Whip S8 AP3, Ordnance 1, Large Blast

______

Tesla (all 24")

Tesla Cannon S6 AP- , Heavy 2

Tesla Carbine S5 AP- , Assault 1

Tesla Destructr S7 AP- , Heavy 4

Tesla Sphere S7 AP- , Heavy 5

To-hit rolls of 6 inflict two additional hits

[Hyrrokin]

the pictures have since been removed. sorry the "dead link"
jackedup has now answered it both, thumbs up. as a side note (and said earlier i think) teslas extra hit rule does not work on snapshots anymore.

edit. came to think I had not seen anything on imotekh, is he a lord of war, are his rules changed?

[esenko]

Jackedup, Please tell us any restrictions for tecnoarcana wargear? Dispersional shields for everyone or not? Thank you

[cherry9968]

Have the triarch stalkers changed at all, do they get some kind of close combat option?