Vs. Orks v7.0

[yoritomo]

7th edition is here. Now that is has been out for a while it is time for us to combine our knowledge and share what we have learned.

This thread is for everything we know about Orks. If you know something about the strategies that Ork players use, or units to watch out for, or how the meta is developing with Orks, or popular ally choices, or units you’ve had success with, or anything else that will help fellow nid players do well against Orks then we’d love for you to share it here.

This is for serious discussion about Ork armies only. As such, flaming will not be tolerated, if you’re going to debate then use facts and don’t break down into make calling or other such nonsense. Also, this isn’t the place for army list reviews; please take those to the appropriate board. And as always, the moderators reserve the right to delete any off topic replies or inappropriate responses.

[yowster12]

Biovores are awesome to deal with them. With the change to Mob Rule many ork players are bringing 'Ard boys for the save or huge blobs which Biovores simply adore.

The Horror when rolled is good for helping to dwindle down their numbers since their Ld is kind of sucky.

As always watch out for MegaNobz.

[kurtangle2]

Actually Orks fear most of our Shooting (AP4 at most, enough for orks) and Psychic Powers (Horror, Paroxysm, Psychic Scream)

[vandalex]

Be careful of a WAAAGGGHH! Try and target the enemy warboss if you can. Without a warboss they cannot WAAAGGHH! A well placed WAAAGGHH! can cripple you with assualts, so be careful how far away the Ork horde is.

[yowster12]

Jul 21, 2014 22:07:27 GMT vandalex said:

Be careful of a WAAAGGGHH! Try and target the enemy warboss if you can. Without a warboss they cannot WAAAGGHH! A well placed WAAAGGHH! can cripple you with assualts, so be careful how far away the Ork horde is.

My solution to this has been to place fliers in the middle. They still have to be careful of the base. Which helps funnel them into groups for my biovores to murder.

Killing the Warboss is not likely for me since Ork players around here never go out without Mega Armour.

[gigasnail]

You kill MANz the same way you kill any other model like it: weight of fire.

[vandalex]

Most ork players will have their warboss in mega armour, so that will be a problem. However, biovores and Twin-linked devourers will be able to wittle him down after time.

Pretty much repeated Gigasnail, my bad.

[gigasnail]

...that's the point.

[tsinner]

You can't be assaulted in the air..so fly and shoot ..outflank devil gaunt ..shots on goal..I guess

[subjectbosco]

Tankbustas are scary now that they can take Trukks as a Dedicated Transport and can fire up to thirteen rokkits (One from the Trukk passenger), even at BS 2. If you see them,be sure to make them a priority if your list features Dakkafexes and Tervigons. Hive Guards are great against Nobz that aren't on Warbikes, and of course can still bust open Trukks. Be careful with Traktor Kannons, they'll go through your Flyrant's armour and must roll a six on his grounded test. Warbuggies can now outflank, and TL Rokkits are free. It's unlikely you'll see them often but when you do, have some gants ready to glace them to death. Hormagaunts are great against Boyz, when they soon realize that 'Eavy Armour isn't going to protect them, they'll go back to wearing T-Shirts, and Talons ignores it (Although some may have a Painboy and/or a hidden Power Klaw Nob), against Slugga Boyz at least.

That's what I can find so far against Orks with their codex in my hands, will add more once I look more into it.

[hivenasilnik]

Had my first couple of games vs the new Ork codex this last week - it's good to see that they're still a fun army to play against, win or lose. I won both games but I don't think I'll be coming out on top against them for long.
I haven't run the numbers but I think they've got a nearly un-killable warboss option with mega-armour and the lucky stick in a decent sized mob with a painboy. 2+ save, re-rollable with FNP (re-rollable) and then many LOS attempts should they be needed. Ouch.

[gigasnail]

biovores.

[hivenasilnik]

Yep, tried that. 4 of them. You're looking at silly amounts of hits though before you do a wound and if one mob of boyz gets whittled down he just jumps ship to another unit of meat shields. It's a 1.2% chance of him failing his 2+, failing the re-roll and then failing FNP twice. So with S4 that averages out at just under 200 hits per wound, have I got that right?

[gigasnail]

Just keep killing his boyz. Put speed bump units in front of anything you don't want power klawed to death. Everything in our codex kills boyz real well.

[Jabberwocky]

Keep an eye on them using the stick, if they fail 3 re-rolls (for instance in shooting) he is removed from the game.