Summary of Changes (New Codex)

[Doc Ruby]

Jan 11, 2014 12:58:54 GMT drakiskier said:

small note: weapons listing, spore mine cysts: you wrote spire mine.

Thanks, fixed!

Jan 11, 2014 15:28:51 GMT hadriel said:

also Hive gaurd have gained the Ignore cover rule, which is a big upgrade

Thanks! Technically this is for the Impaler Cannon that the hive guard use, not the unit itself. I've made a note on the hive guard entry.

Jan 11, 2014 17:39:52 GMT Hive Fleet Green Locust said:

Two important notes that I feel might be taken as negatives if not elaborated:

1) All models that lost 1 attack, come with 2 sets of scytals, so they didn't *really* lose that attack, but will if you swap for shooting weapons.

2) Venomthropes grant shrouded to *models*, not units, within 6". What people forget is that Shrouded works on the whole unit if at least 1 model has it.

You're totally right, and they've also given us additiona tail attacks accessible by most MC's that lost an attack. The Carnifex also gets extra attacks on his charge due to the Hammer of Wrath change.

I've added a note about the shrouded rule.

Jan 11, 2014 18:58:56 GMT omnivore said:

Please note that Lash Whip and Bonesword melee weapon entry has a SINGLE profile that includes both Life Drain and Swiftstrike, therefore you get the benefit of BOTH weapons.

Thanks, i've added a note to clarify.

Jan 11, 2014 22:54:14 GMT gigasnail said:

tfex can no longer swap out cluster spines/stinger salvo. in fact it may not take cluster spines at all.

neither can a tervigon.

Thanks, updated! /edit : I checked the codex and it looks like the Tervigon can still switch these out by the Tfex cannot.

[hadriel]

Jan 11, 2014 15:28:51 GMT hadriel said:

also Hive gaurd have gained the Ignore cover rule, which is a big upgrade

Thanks! Technically this is for the Impaler Cannon that the hive guard use, not the unit itself. I've made a note on the hive guard entry.

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yep, your right it is for the impaler cannon, changes from the last codex since now they would get cover saves at all as apposed to getting them in area terrain. thanks for the update

[disband85]

Can you also please put in the Points modification for all units that have been modified?

[nameless]

This list from streamdragon may save some time:

HQ Choices
Hive Tyrant: -5 PPM; +1BS; Loses BRB powers; lost 2+ armor save option; loses starting Lashwhip/Bonesword (this upgrade now costs 20 points I think)
SwarmLord: +5 PPM; +1BS; +1 Mastery Level -1 psychic power; Loses BRB Powers; no longer forces rerolls of successful ++ saves
Tervigon: +35 PPM; +1 I; -2 Powers; Loses BRB Powers; no longer shares AG/TS; kills larger area of gaunts; spawns gaunts no longer move or charge
Tyranid Prime: +45 PPM

Deathleaper: now HQ from Elites; -10 PPM; gain Infiltrate; Fleshhooks lose Rending
Old One Eye: now HQ from HS; -40 PPM; +1I

Elite Choices
Hive Guard: +5 PPM; -1BS
Lictor: -15 PPM; gain Infiltrate
Pyrovore: -5 PPM; +1W, I, A; No more Spores
Venomthrope: -10 PPM; Gains Shroud instead of default 5+c save; No more Spores
Zoanthrope: -10 PPM; Mastery Level 2; Loses BRB powers; No more Spores; Now Brotherhood of Psykers (not sure if this is a gain or loss, honestly; makes the whole unit very "all or nothing")

Troop Choices
Tyranid Warriors: +/- 0 PPM; No more Spores
Genestealers: +/- 0 PPM; No more Spores
--Broodlord: +/- 0 PPM; Single default power (positive or negative is up for debate I suppose)
Termagants: -1 PPM; can mix weapon types within a unit; No more Spores; cost of TS/AG increased
Hormagaunts: -1 PPM; No more Spores; STs no longer reroll 1s/misses; cost of TS/AG increased
Ripper Swarms: +3 PPM; No longer guaranteed self destruct out of Synapse

Fast Attack
Shrikes: +/- 0 PPM
Harpy: -25 PPM; +1W, A
Gargoyles: +/- 0 PPM
Sky Slasher Swarms: +3 PPM
Raveners: +/- 0 PPM; -1A base, but now get +1A from 2 sets of CCWs STs no longer reroll 1s/misses
Spore Mine Clusters: -5 PPM

Heavy Support
Carnifex: -40 PPM, +1I; -1A; No more Spores
Biovore: -5 PPM; +1W, I, A
Trygon: -10 PPM; -1A base, but now get +1A from 2 sets of CCWs; STs no longer reroll 1s/misses
Trygon Prime: -10 PPM; -1A base, but now get +1A from 2 sets of CCWs; STs no longer reroll 1s/misses
Mawloc: -30 PPM; better From Below rule
Tyranofex: -75! PPM; +1I

Biomorphs
-General-
Adrenal Glands: Grants Fleet along with Furious Charge
Toxin Sacs: No changes
Regeneration: Regain a wound on a 4+ instead of 6(I believe?)

-Melee-
Scything Talons: Grants extra attack with another CC biomorph; AP6 (lolz); No longer reroll 1s/misses
Rending Claws: Grants extra attack with another CC biomorph; AP5
Crushing Claws: Grants extra attack with another CC biomorph; No longer forces I1 for MCs; S+1; Armorbane; AP2 for non MCs; Lost D3 bonus attacks

-Ranged-
Devourer: No longer causes -1 to Ld

[Kwodd]

Jan 11, 2014 22:54:14 GMT gigasnail said:

tfex can no longer swap out cluster spines/stinger salvo. in fact it may not take cluster spines at all.

neither can a tervigon.

Tervigon, may exchange stinger salvo with cluster spines...5 Pts pg 95.

[alamomelt]

Biovores now have 3 wounds (up from 2), Spore Mines don't have to miss by 6" to leave a spore and now leave d3 spores (whether there's 1 or 3 Biovores firing).

[ragnarok]

Harpies can now drop spore mines every turn rather than once per game. Combined with a strangle thorn cannon it is a very good anti hoarde unit

[Davor]

Jan 12, 2014 8:18:51 GMT ragnarok said:

Harpies can now drop spore mines every turn rather than once per game. Combined with a strangle thorn cannon it is a very good anti hoarde unit

Is it spore mines? I thought I read it as a spore cyst attack. Yes I was tired when reading it, but I thought if it misses, no spore mines are made. It's just a blast template attack hit or miss.

[gman25639]

You forgot to list the rupture cannon. Any changes to it?

[gigasnail]

it got cheaper, still a POS.

[ranmafan]

You forgot to mention Thorax swarms no longer count as a free shooting attack and instead take up one of the MC's 2 shooting attack allowance.

[InfestedBusa]

Just as a suggestion... it would be nice to see which units got an increase in cost or decrease in points cost. Thank you for assembling this.

[ragnarok]

Jan 12, 2014 17:39:02 GMT Davor said:

Jan 12, 2014 8:18:51 GMT ragnarok said:

Harpies can now drop spore mines every turn rather than once per game. Combined with a strangle thorn cannon it is a very good anti hoarde unit

Is it spore mines? I thought I read it as a spore cyst attack. Yes I was tired when reading it, but I thought if it misses, no spore mines are made. It's just a blast template attack hit or miss.

It dies has the spore bomb rule, so if the template lands over nothing then you get D3 spore mines to wander around. Though with a D6" scatter they are unlikely to scatter far enough to gain the models. The harpies gain is that it cN drop mines every turn.

Now I come onto something I have just seen when checking the rules to reply

There doesn't seem to be anything in the rules to stop a spore mine cluster fired from a bio ore or harpy form charging the turn it lands. This means harpy and single spore mines want their spore bombs to miss.

Since they placed cluster will have a greater strength blast when they charge in.

[coredump]

assuming they roll a 2-3, and assuming they don't die to overwatch, and then still have to contend with how many hits they will get since half the marker will be over empty space.

[ragnarok]

But if the enemy are overwatching the spores then he isn't overwatching our assault units that failed to make it across the board in one piece

Or if they fall behind a unit that you are going to Achaemenid with mc then you can chase the MC in first then hit them in the rear with the mines to soften them up.

Top ore mines at least have the chance to explode if they miss, unlike most blast weapons.