Ymgarl Stealers assault (through cover) question

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then again i guess it just depends. if they pack enough attacks to mow a group of 4 or more 3+ save guys they may be worth it for the ability to precision drop into the backlines IF the rules for "surprise!" mean they have a chance of actually living. can use them to mop up weapons team and scorers and such but the points costs are going to be nasty and we're still fighting for elite slots. i would consider them at least but it's going to depend a lot on the codex as a whole. it's even fluffy.

[N.I.B.]

Perhaps we should keep the rumour discussions in proper threads, but Lictor is rumoured to get a point cost increase. Surprise! means no charging when popping up, and only be hit with snap shots (so no templates or blasts). But there are a lot of armies with enough shots to don't care (Orks), twin-linked (Necrons) or special rules to negate snap shots. And nothing stopping enemies from charging you just to neutralize your unit, if nothing else.

For Ymgarls, all this, plus losing another turn before you can charge something. I leave you to decide if that's a buff or a nerf.