Tyranid Apocolypse?

[Kwodd]

Had a chance to put some good time into the apocalypse book and I don't think the tyranids faired to well. The lack of d weapons is a real tough pill to swallow. The formations we received look ok for the most part, endless swarm looking like a really strong formation. Subterranean got neutered but is still useful. I'd like to hear how your tyranids do in your upcoming Apocolypse games as I will be playing orks for my club's Apocolypse game next Sunday.

[hadriel]

Jul 13, 2013 22:57:54 GMT Kwodd said:

Had a chance to put some good time into the apocalypse book and I don't think the tyranids faired to well. The lack of d weapons is a real tough pill to swallow. The formations we received look ok for the most part, endless swarm looking like a really strong formation. Subterranean got neutered but is still useful. I'd like to hear how your tyranids do in your upcoming Apocolypse games as I will be playing orks for my club's Apocolypse game next Sunday.

well the bio-titan still fared really well i think didnt lose much has i had feared, has 6++ now and 6 shot bio cannons is now 1k points and isnt a psyker anymore so more more mind strike missles! is still has agile so now it has a threat range of 36" but cant assault (24" if you want to assault) and GC have a bunch of rules that i think will still make them decent

but we still have access to D str weapons since we can use baneblades and imperial titans with chaos stuff through genestealer cults so its still a option, ill probably get a baneblade and convert it and maybe a warhound

[1swarmlord]

endless swarm is awesome, for sure after turn 3 (maybe even 2 and 3 depending how they roll) people can only snap fire at the swarm (hit on 6's) so you can not be hit by any blast weapons, they can be a real problem for enemies as they lock in combat and most will make it because hitting on 6's will minimize losses before they hit.

[t⊗theark]

I'm liking the look of the living fortress myself. It could really be used to push up the line now it can involve hiveguard, and if you D weapons are targeted at trying to take down a couple of hivetyrants than it isn't going after the heirophant.
I think phanty got a nerf the other way because it having a 3++ save was (please do not swear) hilariously tough.

[Davor]

I believe Tyranids do have D-weapons in Apocalypse. Very unfluffy, but I read that Nids, as well as all the others except for Necrons and Tau, and use the Space Marines charts (or what ever they are called). If the Nids use a Titan, it has to look Niddy I think, and be run from Stealer Cults.


I could be wrong, but just going by what I read in another forum. So while we the Tyranids may lack D weapons, we can still take them in an Apocalypse game.

[hadriel]

Jul 14, 2013 2:37:07 GMT Davor said:

I believe Tyranids do have D-weapons in Apocalypse. Very unfluffy, but I read that Nids, as well as all the others except for Necrons and Tau, and use the Space Marines charts (or what ever they are called). If the Nids use a Titan, it has to look Niddy I think, and be run from Stealer Cults.


I could be wrong, but just going by what I read in another forum. So while we the Tyranids may lack D weapons, we can still take them in an Apocalypse game.

this is true we have access to the imperial units and tratior legions, if the models shows it and is converted. just like orks can use anything from any race if they loot it

[t⊗theark]

Jul 14, 2013 2:59:22 GMT hadriel said:

tratior legions

On that note, is there much on traitor guard? At least a little?

[1swarmlord]

the new stomp attack is pretty awesome, 1 misses like everything else, 2-5 (small blast , 3 of them) S6 AP4 on the whole unit even if just partially covered, and on a 6 (you have 3 chances with the stomp attack) models are removed from play, kinda like a D weapon. no save just remove them!!

[gigasnail]

yeah traitor guard, full range. anything the imperium has, so do the traitors.

[innocent]

Those rules look pretty awesome! might have to have a look into it.

[Davor]

Jul 14, 2013 6:47:03 GMT gigasnail said:

yeah traitor guard, full range. anything the imperium has, so do the traitors.

So basically everyone is playing Space Marines then. I guess the day has come now. The joke was it would be just Codex SM, and now it seems it has come.

I just wish GW actually really thought out what they are doing and make everyone unique instead of just a variant of SM. Even the Xenos races are just a splinter off SM now sadly.

So if we are going to be stubborn, and an not use anything Imperial, how would the Tyranids fair then?

[Kwodd]

I am stubborn and refuse to use anything imperial.

[t⊗theark]

I sometimes dream there will be a lost and damned codex one day.

[baraccus]

Just for clarification, the part of the Apoc book that mentions using genestealer cults to access imperial units/formations was a "Forging a Narative" section. It just gives a fluff reason why nids and baneblades are on the same side.

Per the rules in the book, there are absolutely no restrictions on what you can and can not bring. Want to bring a bio titan, baneblade and eldar phantom titan all in one army? Go for it.

However because nids are nids, any ally that is "Come the Apocalypse" in the standard 40k ally matrix (ie everything for nids) is considered desperate allies in apoc.

[gigasnail]

guys, honestly, if you're playing apoc, no one is going to care what plastic dudesmen are in your army. just play and lay waste to stuff and have fun.

...this, from me. i know.