Overwatch and Combat Results

[nurglitch]

This is one of those "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" kind of moments where I want to verify the blindingly obvious, and perhaps discover something I'm not seeing. If not, then reassure myself that I hadn't screwed over all of my 6th edition opponents:

Observing a recent game at my local Games Workshop store, a Tau player charged a unit of Lootas in a building. The wisdom of doing so isn't the issue. However, after five of the Kroot evaporated to Overwatch fire from the Lootas, the players put the Kroot to one side, and then added them to the combat results meaning that the Tau player lost the combat by 4 points. He passed the morale test, and was generally beating seven kinds of hell out of a Necron/Ork army, so when I asked why they had included overwatch casualties in the combat results, saying that combat resolution is limited to casualties caused in the Fight sub-phase, I got the answer that they had both read it somewhere.

Well, it was someone else's game, so i wasn't going to press the matter, but I'm likely to play these guys again at an upcoming tournament and I wanted to check (having consulted the FAQ and the rulebook), are overwatch casualties added to combat results?

Because if they are, I need to apologize to lots of opponents. And if they aren't, then I need to check with the tournament organizer for his ruling first. On the gripping hand, it always helps to ask a third-party for its opinion.

What do you think?

[gigasnail]

we had to look this up too the other day. brb, page 26, determine assault results. all wounds incurred during fight sub-phase, regardless of source. so hammer of wrath, yes. overwatch occurs during the charge sub-phase, so the wounds don't count towards combat resolution.

[nurglitch]

I know, it seems pretty straightforward. I'm curious about where these guys got it that overwatch might somehow jump the Fight sub-phase clause.

[gigasnail]

probably from not understanding overwatch is actually in a different phase, i'd guess. the rule is pretty clear as it says all wounds in the fight sub-phase, so it's not too far of a stretch to think it just means all wounds and not realize there are multiple phases involved in a charge. might be a case of people only half-reading the rules. that seems to be the big culprit in a lot of misunderstood rules.

[nurglitch]

It's usually why I get the rules wrong, particularly when I don't have the rulebook open in front of me.