"Candyman" Great movie, or greatest movie?

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So, just saw the movie "Candyman," starting Virginia Madsen (The poor mans Julian Anderson) and Tony Todd (The poor mans avery brooks).


WOW... just wow... It was the ultimate in 90s racesim. You know, not the "kill them blackies" racism but "lets help these noble savages" racism.

SO, anyone else see this movie? What was your favorite part? That it predicted the "Bees" meme 20 years beforehand, the genital mutilation, or the gang members dressed as fresh prince?

[daveclark890]

It's a good film, the second is pretty good too.

[Geneva]

I might have, but it's been so long I can scarcely remember.

Was that the movie where the innocent white girl enlists the help of a young black child to deal with an evil pimpin' voodoo spirit who castrates people (because evil spirits and castration are just the kind of (please do not swear) black kids deal with on a regular basis, right?) and all the black people live in a side of town that looks like it was taken straight out of Fallout 3? The same movie that implied voodoo and what not is just an inherent part of black culture?

Because that movie was freaking hilarious! For all the wrong reasons. All the more so because, when I first watched it, I was the only one there out of my friends unable to take it the least bit seriously. My favourite part was when the unstoppable Candyman is finally defeated by a freaking wooden beam and burns to death (Spoilers! Oh, who cares, this movie's story made no sense anyway) and, I kid you not, a full procession of black people appear out of nowhere to pay their respects and thank the young white girl for saving them.

Condescending doesn't even begin to cover it. A classic great 'bad' movie.

[Psychichobo]

Annoyingly, the premise itself would be pretty damn cool if it weren't for the awful, awful racism. Though I've never much liked Clive Barker's unusually intelligent bargaining demons, like Pinhead or that evil house thing from that kid's book he did.

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My favorite part was not just the racism, but also the sado sexuality. There is absolutely zero established reason why the candyman uses a hook, and goes for peoples (specifically woman's) genitals.

Even the helan girl kinda sorta makes sense because here husband cheated, and so off with his nuts, but even then the hook is arbitrary.

[Geneva]

Because hooks are skaary?

As I said, it's been years since I've seen Candyman and it was one movie of many in a film marathon too. It kind of got lost among the others (in fact, this is the first I've thought about it since that night). I do remember the unnecessary attention to castration though. I also remember the lead female going nuts in a hospital or something. It's a bit hazy but I think I remember some uncomfortable predatory elements to it all. Though for a while, the movie almost redeemed itself (well, not really but made itself seem slightly less stupid at least) by implying the whole Candyman thing was all in her mind. Of course, that turned out not to be the case during the 'epic' showdown at the end. Implied omnipresence and the ability to appear and dissapear at any time? Not if this falling length of wood has anything to say about it!

I also just remembered that Candyman's calling card was a bowl of candy next to a graffiti piece of himself. A ghost that unusully does graffiti to mark his territory... that happens to be a black man. Yeah, I'm sure there are no negative connotations to that at all....

[barbedsparky]

The even scarier thing is: this guy actually lives.

Check out Josh Gibson (Plays AFL for the Hawks as a defender).

Seriously this guy is a dead ringer.

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Hah!

[DukeMantis]

Classic horror for me, i grew up being scared of those movies